“It is always the simple that produces the marvelous.” -Amelia Barr

Captain Marvel, the high-flying, space-faring Avenger.

Shazam, DC’s Mightiest Mortal and Champion of Magic.

Their power is incredible and their heroism known far and wide. Throughout a tumultuous comic history, both of these superheroes have proudly worn the mantle of Captain Marvel, soaring the stars and achieving feats that few could dream of. But in the ring together, only one will prove themself worthy of the name. Will Carol Danvers show that the original isn’t always the best, or will Billy Batson electrify the opposition? Find out in this marvelous DEATH BATTLE!

Before We Start…

Overall

As with our previous rematch blogs, this match was predominantly researched by two main research leads, rather than a full team. Likewise, as with prior blogs we will be including a retrospective section before the verdicts, covering both characters’ appearances on Death Battle.

Captain Marvel

Carol’s power set fluctuates a lot throughout her history, but her modern version is the strongest she’s ever been, even including her Binary days, so we don’t need to worry about that. She does have a few temporary power boosts that will not be included, such as her brief stint as a Kree Accuser, during which she wielded Ronan’s Universal Weapon. However, though they were destroyed at the end of Captain Marvel Vol 12, we will be including Mar-Vell’s Nega-Bands, as she had them for the entirety of that run and they are very tied-in with the lore and mythos of Captain Marvel. This will be explained in more detail under that section. Lastly, she has occasionally received temporary amps which have boosted her abilities, such as her healing factor. These will obviously be excluded.

Recently, Carol has undergone a power nerf as of Avengers Armageddon #5, as a result of being overtaxed by Red Hulk’s nuclear blast. While the full extent of this nerf is unclear as of yet, Reed Richards stated that she is at roughly ten percent power, can still produce photon blasts, but cannot fly. As we are using Carol at her best, this analysis will be focused on her capabilities pre-nerf.

Shazam

Billy’s continuity might be slightly confusing to an outsider, given that he has been published by two entirely separate comic companies. Originally the property of Fawcett Comics during the Golden Age, Captain Marvel was forced out of publication by a legal battle with DC, who claimed that he was a copyright violation of their flagship hero, Superman. Funnily enough, Captain Marvel was actually outselling Superman by a lot at the time. I’m sure this had nothing to do with the lawsuit whatsoever.

Obviously DC didn’t really have any legal ground to stand on (he’s strong, flies, and wears a cape, waow) but toward the end of the Golden Age, superhero popularity was on the decline and Fawcett was more or less ready to stop printing Captain Marvel comics anyway. So they settled out of court and agreed to put the character to rest. Interesting to consider what might have happened had they held out a few more years until the Silver Age comic resurgence, but we’ll never know.

Fast forward a couple decades and DC decides they aren’t satisfied with bullying the smaller company into submission, so they buy the character and start integrating him into their comic line with a transitionary book. Before long, his original universe was deep-fried by the Crisis on Infinite Earths, and Billy Batson was a DC character through and through.

While it might be tempting to handwave all those early comics as retconned events from a different publisher, DC’s Captain Marvel comics (before the Crisis, at least) do take place in continuity with his original Fawcett appearances. While the Crisis did reset him, Pre-Crisis events have since been reintegrated, so all that stuff should be perfectly valid. Obviously Post-Crisis and Post-Flashpoint appearances are included as well. Standard DC fare.

It should also be noted that we’ll intermittently be calling him Shazam in this blog, but technically his current name in the comics is (somewhat inconsistently) Captain Marvel again. It’s also worth mentioning that like any good comic lad, Billy’s had a bunch of different power amps over the years. These will be detailed in their own sections, and discussed briefly in the verdict, but needless to say we’ll mainly be focusing on Billy’s normal power set.

Captain Marvel

Background

  • Names: Carol Susan Jane Danvers, Car-Ell
  • Height: 5’11” | 1.8 m
  • Weight: 124 lbs | 56.2 kg
  • Species: Half human, half Kree
  • Aliases: Ms. Marvel, Binary, Warbird, Captain Marvel
  • Affiliations: Avengers, Alpha Flight, Starjammers, Air Force, N.A.S.A., C.I.A.
  • Likes: Cats, blueberry muffins, pizza, coffee, model airplanes, War Machine
  • Fan of Star Wars, D&D, Angel (the show), Game of Thrones
  • Headmaster of Avengers Academy
  • Canonically owns a Shazam t-shirt
  • Inspired the Carol Corps

Throughout Carol Danvers’ childhood, she always wanted to touch the stars. Though her father was a former U.S. Navy officer who had some… less than progressive beliefs about women, it was always her dream to become an astronaut for NASA. In service to this goal, she joined the Air Force after graduating from high school, and quickly became their star pilot. Eventually, she became the youngest security chief in NASA’s history, and her future looked bright.

Unfortunately, everything went a bit off the rails for her when she met a superhero named Mar-Vell, a decorated warrior captain from the starfaring race known as the Kree. Upon the detonation of a device called the Psyche-Magnitron, Carol and Mar-Vell were subjected to intense alien energies, and the radiation awakened something within Carol. Fusing her mind and genes with Mar-Vell’s, she was granted incredible superpowers, and took to the skies as the high-flying Ms. Marvel.

In time, Ms. Marvel became a famous hero, standing alongside the Avengers against threats to the entire planet, but the honeymoon phase of superheroing wouldn’t last forever. In what might be the most… controversial Avengers issue ever, she was abducted and predated upon by an extradimensional being named Marcus. To make matters worse, shortly afterward she had her powers drained by the mutant supervillain, Rogue. But Rogue’s touch didn’t just steal Carol’s powers away; she also drained Carol’s personality and emotions, leaving her a husk of her former self who was completely cut off from her emotional connections with everything she had previously known. And to put the cherry on top of this gigantic string of life-changing trauma… Mar-Vell died. Rest in peace.

Almost completely broken, Carol could find no further happiness on Earth, but when she was captured and experimented on by a race of aliens known as the Brood, her powers reawakened greater and stronger than ever before. Now, she was connected with the universe itself, capable of traversing space on her own as a new superhero. Greater than ever, and fulfilled once again, Carol joined the Starjammers to protect the universe under a new name: Binary. She had finally achieved her dream, and touched the stars.

And then they were ripped away from her. After years away from Earth, Carol’s energy was forcibly severed from the fabric of the universe that she drew power from, and she reverted to her human form. Now back on Earth and much weaker, Carol was left to pick up the pieces once again, still burdened by the scars left by Rogue and Marcus years prior. She rejoined the Avengers under the name Warbird, but it just wasn’t the same. In her pain, she turned to alcohol for a fix, and soon ended up dismissed from Earth’s Mightiest Heroes until she could pull herself together.

Inspiration comes from the most unlikely of places, though. Of all things, it was Scarlet Witch rewriting reality that gave Carol her drive back. In the House of M that she found herself in, Carol was the greatest hero on Earth, beloved by all. Though this new reality didn’t last long, Carol didn’t feel a sense of loss when it dissolved. Rather, she finally had a goal to aspire to. That feeling of helping others, of being the person that everyone relies on, became her new dream. She wanted to be the mightiest of Earth’s Mightiest Heroes, and reclaimed the name of Ms. Marvel once again.

Then Mar-Vell came back! Then Mar-Vell died again. He does that a lot. Still determined, though, Carol claimed his name for herself, to honor him and to reflect her new mindset. As Captain Marvel, Carol became head of Alpha Flight, super-powered individuals employed by the government to protect the Earth. In her new position of responsibility, Carol got serious… and then got tangled up in the second superhero Civil War against Iron Man. In the belief that she could stop crimes before they happen, she ended up alienating a lot of friends, and even putting Tony Stark into a coma. Though she had good intentions, it hardly justified anything.

Eventually, though, she and Tony made amends, and she even rejoined the Avengers to fight alongside him. In the time since, she’s stopped major threats to the planet like Vox Supreme, and even taken down the Brood once again. As she did so, she found herself getting stronger and stronger, until eventually she regained the strength she once had, able to enter Binary form at will. In time, she became the leader of the Avengers, and they’ve even started calling her “Earth’s Mightiest Hero.” Though she still hasn’t fully recovered from Rogue’s touch, her memories and emotions have slowly started to come back as well.

It’s been a long and slow journey, but after being hurt again and again, she’s picked up the pieces, gotten sober, and found a reason to live again. At long last, the future seems to be looking bright for Carol, and as long as she continues to soar through the sky, she won’t rest until the Earth and the stars alike are safe.

Experience & Skill

In terms of overall experience… Carol was in the Air Force for over ten years, as their star pilot and the youngest head of security in NASA’s history. She also used to be in the C.I.A., and was trained in dirty tactics. Notable superhero teams that she has been a part of include but are not limited to the Avengers, the Starjammers, Alpha Flight, and the Guardians of the Galaxy. In terms of the Avengers specifically, she served as the Avengers Chair for the duration of the 2023 run, and was generally quite successful. She has spent a brief period of time as a Kree Accuser. She has even fought foes from other franchises, such as Mothra from Godzilla.

In terms of formal training… Carol was trained in martial arts at Kennedy Space Center, which made her an expert in armed and unarmed combat even before gaining superpowers. She also has Mar-Vell’s memories of his imperial training on Kree-Larmar, with Mar-Vell being considered “quite possibly the greatest warrior who walked the stars.” She has undergone Avengers training exercises, and completed specific courses faster than anyone since Quicksilver. Without her superpowers, when she was held at gunpoint by two people, she disarmed one and stole his gun, ending up in a standoff, demonstrating her training and quick thinking.

In terms of martial arts skill… Carol is established to know Judo, which she used against Grotesk, as well as kung fu and karate. She has Mar-Vell’s martial arts skills, with Mar-Vell being described as an expert unarmed combatant. Against Tiger Shark, she was able to hit the pressure points on his neck, which cut off the flow of blood to his brain. Even while depowered, she was able to outskill and overpower Mystique, whose hand to hand skill is comparable to world-class experts like Wolverine. Iron Man was impressed by Carol’s martial arts skills, and compared her to Mantis, who has thousands of years of martial arts training and has defeated experts like Karnak. When facing Star, who was ten times stronger than her, she was still able to maintain an advantage temporarily through sheer skill. Finally, she was able to keep up with Black Panther hand-to-hand, while specifically refraining from using her powers.

In terms of in-character tactics… Carol is very willing to fight dirty and employ cheese tactics. She has flown a Skrull into space and let it suffocate. She once stabbed out a different Skrull’s eyes with her thumbs, to blind it. When fighting Iron Man, she blasted him into space, crushed his throat to prevent him from vocally calling more suits, and then ripped his armor apart so he would choke to death in space (don’t worry he was fine and it made sense in context). When dealing with the Enchantress, Carol sucker punched her with a photon blast before the fight even started, to take Amora out before she could use any magic. Carol is also willing to throw enemies into the sun to defeat them.

In terms of strategy against certain types of foes… Carol can strategize against various opposing abilities, for instance using a vacuum chamber to depower a fire user. When facing a giant Skrull that she struggled to harm, she stabbed it with a radio tower to electrocute it. When facing Thundersword, who drew his powers from his sword, she was able to depower him by separating him from said sword. When she was fighting T’Challa and he turned invisible, she was able to track him by noticing how he disturbed dust when he moved. When fighting Nada, whose power she could not permanently absorb, she considered dragging her to the sun and frying her. When an enemy was able to absorb her blasts, she simply switched to punching. She was able to fight Space Stone Quantum and catch him off guard, even though he could perceive the entire universe in perfect detail. Jean Grey stated that Carol is the best tactician she’s ever met, which is extremely impressive given Jean’s own breadth of experience.

In terms of deductive reasoning… She was able to deduce quickly and effectively that S.H.I.E.L.D. agent Sum had been replaced by a Skrull. She successfully figured out that Tony Stark was Iron Man before she knew him and when he was still hiding his identity. When imprisoned as a POW, she was able to deduce how long she had been imprisoned based on her torturer’s offhand comments and through counting the seconds, despite the fact that she was undergoing severe torture at the time.

In terms of improvement over time… Rogue has observed that Carol improves with her powers over time, and does not believe that her own previous usage of Carol’s powers would be good enough to stand up to a modern Carol. Agatha Harkness said during the 2019 Captain Marvel run that Carol is “fast becoming one of the most powerful hammers in the universe,” confirming that Carol got much stronger during that run. Indeed, Carol herself recognized that she was getting stronger, pushing toward something, to the point of being afraid that she might become similar to Wanda. In the 2023 Avengers run, it was made clear that Carol has learned from her mistakes during Civil War II, and she has a monologue in line with this where she says the Avengers are like firefighters, rather than cops.

In terms of book smarts… Thanks to her genetically programmed Kree knowledge, Carol was able to use Kree science to jury-rig power cables into a field generator that subjected Vision’s immaterial form to a stress beyond endurance. Carol is also noted to be fluent in three languages.

Abilities

Half-Kree Physiology

Carol’s mother was an alien Kree, and her father was human, meaning that she is a unique hybrid between the two species. This is something that she was unaware of throughout her childhood, and her latent Kree abilities remained dormant until she was empowered by the radiation of the Psyche-Magnitron. Originally, Carol believed that this machine endowed her with the powers and memories of Mar-Vell, a Kree warrior who was near her at the time. However, in actuality, it activated her own latent abilities, triggering an ancient Kree defense mechanism and irreversibly modifying her genes. Surprise, you’re an alien! That’s just how it be sometimes, when you’re a comic character. Though she does seemingly still have Mar-Vell’s memories.

As a half-Kree, Carol is vastly stronger, faster, and more durable than a human, can fly and manipulate energy, and survive the inhospitable conditions of space with no need to breathe. Moreover, Kree training and combat skills are programmed into her genes, and she can draw on the abilities of a fully trained warrior without the need for any additional training. Even in the event that her powers are lost, she maintains her genetically-programmed combat abilities.

Superhuman Strength

Carol is immensely strong, though her exact strength level varies across her history. In general, her best strength showings have been in recent years, from her 2019 solo run onward, as she got much more powerful around that time, to go along with her MCU portrayal.

In terms of lifting… Carol can easily lift cars, as well as entire skyscrapers. When a dead Celestial was falling on Times Square, she caught it and set it down gently, to prevent it from crushing anyone. When faced with a massive meteor, which had broken off from a much larger asteroid, she managed to stop it in its tracks and throw it away, redirecting it. Perhaps most impressively, in the most recent Avengers run, she was able to lift and move a reactor that contained a black hole.

In terms of striking… During one of her weaker eras, her strikes were measured to equal 44-ton impacts, and then later 92-ton, when she was putting in more effort. She has also smashed through a Hydra ship, and broke apart another chunk of the aforementioned meteor with her strikes. When fighting a battle suit made of Adamantine steel, she was able to smash its louvres. For reference, Adamantine is what Hercules’ club is made out of, and Wolverine’s claws cannot cut it. Lastly, her punches were able to damage Robbie Reyes’ car, which has survived blasts from Silver Surfer and crashing into a planet.

In terms of pulling, crushing, or grappling… Carol once broke out of being encased in a trinitite crystal pillar that was harder than steel, which Hecate believed to be unbreakable. For reference, Hecate destroyed half a million tons of rock in one shot, in the same issue. Similarly, Carol broke out of a chair made of Adamantium and Vibranium while her powers were dampened, though Norman Osborn said this was due to issues with the chair’s manufacturing, rather than a legitimate strength feat from her. More tangibly, Carol has claimed to be able to throw a giant kraken into the sun, and has smashed Thor through a mountain. Given that she was able to grapple evenly with Thor, her lifting strength should be comparable to his.

In terms of scaling to other characters… Carol pretty regularly has been shown to be able to damage or outright defeat powerful characters with her punches. This includes Super Skrull, Cassie Lang, Iron Patriot, Mr. Sinister, Fin Fang Foom (even Symbiote-amped), Iron Man, Amadeus Cho, Blaastar, Sindr, Abomination, every member of Thanos’ Black Order, Genis-Vell, the Wrecking Crew, and even Thanos, just to name a few.

In terms of more noteworthy or drawn-out encounters, Carol has clashed with Iron Man and smashed apart his armor as of Civil War II. She has good showings against Wonder Man, clashing with him evenly and fighting him while he is mind controlled, despite the fact that Wonder Man is stated on various occasions to be nearly as strong as Thor. She has pretty casually overpowered Joe Fixit (the Grey Hulk), though conversely lost immediately to Green Hulk and has struggled to damage him, albeit while in one of her weaker eras. She has matched She-Hulk hand to hand, can hit harder than Wasp’s stings, and punched out Omen, who was able to kill Genis-Vell.

Even early in her history, she was able to harm the villain Grotesk and throw him into a planet busting laser, which collapsed into an interdimensional gateway that twisted apart time and space, crashing stars and planets into one another. This is impressive because it was later revealed he survived. Also relatively early in her history, when training against a robot that was built to fight Hercules, Carol was able to stagger it and then knock its head off with full strength and concentration. However, those two punches took everything she had, and left her so weak she was shaking.

Keep in mind that every feat listed above is without Binary.

Superhuman Speed

Carol has incredible superhuman speed, much faster than any ordinary human, which is applicable in a variety of contexts. Her travel speed, combat speed, and reaction speed are all top-notch, and as a result one of her favorite tactics in combat is to blitz her opponents and defeat them before they even know what’s happening.

In terms of flight speed… Carol can easily reach speeds of Mach 3, and can catch up to a nuclear missile. Even mid-combat, she could carry Thor to Jersey before an enemy realizes what’s going on. She has flown to the edge of the atmosphere in minutes or seconds. She has crossed half the solar system quickly, can travel to the asteroid belt in no time flat, and can keep pace with crystals shooting into space at the speed of light. Taking it up a notch, she casually flew to the Pama star system, 160,000 light years away, between pages. She could escape a collapsing black hole, and was able to fly Blastaar to the other side of the universe and then back, while saying she would join her allies for cleanup “in a few.”

In terms of reaction feats… Carol can dodge bullets from point blank range. She can evade blasts of energy from Ronan’s hammer, and can dodge Destructor’s tachyon blasts, which are explicitly stated to be faster than light in the same comic. She is fast enough to get past photonic nullifier beams, which as the name implies are photon-based. She can react to a massively FTL ship as it was going in and out of hyperdrive.

In terms of keeping up with other characters in flight… She could fly in fast enough to save Jessica Jones from a bloodlusted Vision, getting Jessica away before any of the other Avengers or characters such as the Silver Surfer could stop her. As Binary, she was able to fly away from a planet at high speed alongside Captain Marvel (Monica), Ikaris, and Hyperion, and is stated to be as fast as the Heralds of Galactus.

In terms of keeping up with other characters in combat… She can keep up with Black Panther in pure hand-to-hand combat, without using her powers. War Machine (specifically Frank Castle) admitted that she was faster than him. Likewise, she could keep up with and overwhelm Iron Man by the time of Civil War II, despite the fact that Tony can react in picoseconds. She was able to speedblitz Blaastar. As Binary, she kept up with the Collective, who was on par with Sentry. Also as Binary, she could also match Heralds of Galactus like Firelord and Terrax, who possess immeasurable speed on par with the Silver Surfer.

In terms of judgement and complex actions… Carol has completed an Avengers training course faster than anyone since Quicksilver, who is renowned for his incredible speed. This would include the likes of Thor, Captain America, Iron Man, and so on.

When deprived of her superpowers… Carol is still fast enough to dodge bullets.

Invulnerability

Carol possesses exceptional superhuman durability, which has been explicitly referred to as “invulnerability,” though it is made abundantly clear that there are limits to her resilience. Because of this, she can withstand many different forms of damage no worse for wear.

In terms of performance against blunt force… Carol has survived crashing to Earth from space. She has endured thousands of tons of steel falling on her. She was once bodily smashed through the entire Manhattan underground, before emerging in the Houston River.

In terms of her performance against piercing damage… Carol is consistently bulletproof, with bullets ricocheting off of her, even from point-blank range. Adamantium, on the other hand, can cut her, but she was actively surprised that a blade could do so.

In terms of her performance against energy attacks… She could withstand the Destructor’s tachyon blasts, which could punch holes in an Imperial Kree starship. She has survived her own energy being blasted back at her with added force. She has endured being blasted by Thor’s lightning for extended periods. She has survived an energy surge from the Warlock’s Eye, which contained magic older than Asgard and was powerful enough to contain Phoenix Jean Grey.

In terms of her performance against explosions… She has survived a nuclear missile exploding on top of her, as well as a huge nuclear blast in space that knocked her down to Earth, and other nuclear explosions as well. On another occasion, she was fine after being caught in a massive blast in space that was visible from ground level.

In terms of her performance against high temperatures… Carol has endured the heat of atmospheric reentry, which can reach up to 3,871 degrees Celsius. As Binary, she can survive being near the Sun, or even coming into direct contact with it, reigniting the star entirely. The core of the sun can reach 15 million degrees Celsius. She can survive her own photon blasts, which are hot enough to melt through a star. As previously mentioned, she can withstand nuclear explosions as well.

In terms of her performance against other characters… Blasts which Carol could endure were capable of oneshotting Vision. Even though he was using the Thing’s strength, Super Skrull’s blows couldn’t take Carol down. She was able to survive a blast from a mind-controlled Thor. She can easily tank Iron Man’s repulsor blasts, even when barraged by four armors simultaneously. Riri Williams’ repulsor blasts can likewise do little damage to her. She was able to take blows from All-Father Thor for several hours. She later took a beating from She-Hulk for roughly an hour. She was largely fine after a blow from Miracleman.

In terms of pain tolerance… Even without her powers, Carol once endured being tortured as a prisoner of war for three hours, which included getting her arm smashed horrifically by a sledgehammer, among other things. Despite the agonizing pain, she never gave away any secrets, deduced the length of her imprisonment, and then ripped her way out of her manacles. Again, with a crushed arm and no powers. With them, she has burned the flesh from her own bones and just regenerated while showing no pain, and has shrugged off full body impalement.

In terms of stamina… Carol can fight for hours or days without rest. She has fought for days against enemies as fearsome as the Skrulls. She fought She-Hulk for around an hour, taking a beating all the while, and fought Thor for several hours, while constantly enduring his blows and absorbing his lightning blasts. Binary’s energy is infinite.

Flight

One of Carol’s most iconic powers is the ability to fly, both in the atmosphere and in space. She does this by interacting with electromagnetic fields in her vicinity, and it has been described as the most taxing of her powers. Originally, this ability was attributed to the electronic webbing within her costume, but after additional exposure to the radiation of the Psyche-Magnitron, it is now a power innate to Carol.

Over the years, her exact flight speed has fluctuated with her powers as a whole. At her weakest, she can only reach speeds of Mach 3 while flying as fast as she can, while more moderately she can fly to the end of the atmosphere in under two minutes, requiring speeds hundreds of times faster than sound. In the time since then, however, she has gotten much faster, having made the same trip casually in the span of a sentence. Even more impressively, she can pretty easily cross half the solar system, reaching the asteroid belt in moments, or even traverse the distance to other star systems quickly. For instance, she has casually flown to the Pama star system, which is 160,000 light years away. And most impressively, she can cross the universe and back, being able to fly Blastaar to the other side of the universe and return quickly enough to help her friends with clean-up.

Keep in mind that this is all in her base form, with Binary being much faster. As Binary, she effortlessly travels the galaxy unaided and can match the flight speed of characters like Hyperion, Monica Rambeau, and Ikaris. In combat, Binary’s flight can even keep up with the Heralds of Galactus like Firelord and Terrax, who are capable of immeasurable speed, scaling to the Silver Surfer.

Energy Aura

Carol’s body passively generates an aura of energy both inside of her body and outside, which protects her from inhospitable effects and attacks. Most notably, this includes a “breathable atmosphere” around her body that grants her an unlimited supply of oxygen while in space, along with protection from heat, cold, and cosmic radiation. Because of this, things like smoke are not normally able to affect her. Her energy aura can also defend her from harm, even against cosmic entities like the Undone.

Energy Projection

Thanks to her ability to manipulate energy, one of Carol’s primary means of attack is to fire blasts, waves, or explosions of energy to strike her foes with searing heat and concussive force. The exact composition of these beams varies from comic to comic, likely because Carol has control over various forms of energy and can alter the properties of her blasts at will. In some cases, the bolts she fires are composed of plasma, while in other cases they are composed of photons. The latter is notably more common.

These blasts are enormously powerful. They can damage the likes of Annihilus, beam struggle with Thor-level Eternals like Gilgamesh, and match Iron Man’s repulsor beams. In Carol’s own words, they possess enough power to melt a hole through a star, and according to Jessica Drew, Carol could blow up the moon if she gets angry enough. Furthermore, they have consistently shown to be capable of overloading foes who can absorb energy. This includes Blastaar, who once withstood a portion of the Big Bang, Nefaria, a team buster who has claimed that his own energy can atomize people, and the Omen, who killed Genis-Vell. While her blasts have been absorbed successfully before, it has notably been stated that Iron Man would be incapable of absorbing them at all (though Doom can (because he’s Doom)).

After absorbing enough energy, Carol’s blasts can even reach a level of power great enough to knock Thor unconscious. And other Asgardians as well, given they can also harm Loki. Even powerful sorcerers have had trouble due to the strength of Carol’s blasts, as she has strained Agatha Harkness’ magic barrier, causing her to groan from the strain of repelling the assault. In the event that she wants to take a battle to space, she can blast her opponent clean out of the atmosphere and then follow them, which she has successfully done against Iron Man.

It should be noted that beams or bolts of energy are not Carol’s only means of projecting energy. For example, she can fire sweeping waves to strike multiple enemies at once. She once even made a slashing energy wave that cut a group of Skrulls in half across the middle. She can shoot lasers from her fingers (finger gun!) and from her eyes, though in the latter case they’re hard to control and she can’t see while doing it. It has also been established that she is capable of replicating Black Widow’s death touch with her powers.

When held in place by an enemy or object, Carol can expel her energy omnidirectionally, blasting things off and away from her. This ranges from enemies dogpiling her, to ice that is freezing or burying her. She has used a similar tactic to blast off metal restraints, or to get a fake Mar-Vell off of her when he was trying to choke her out.

While Carol’s energy reserves can increase or decrease with absorption and expenditure, her ability to recharge herself means that in theory she will never truly run out of juice. This is exemplified by her encounters with the Undone in her most recent solo run, a cosmic being who has drained entire universes of their energy. Not unlike Galactus, the Undone is constantly in search of power to sate her hunger, but views Carol herself as “the ultimate snack,” an everlasting battery and a meal that would sate her forever.

Energy Absorption

One of Carol’s principle abilities is the power to absorb energy of nearly all varieties. Though there are millions of types of energy in the universe, and the full range of what she can and cannot absorb is unclear, in practice she can intake very nearly anything. However, the difficulty varies between different energy types, and in general Carol typically needs to endure the energy she is absorbing in order to effectively process it. That does not, however, mean that she is incapable of absorbing energy beyond her paygrade; it merely means that she will often be pushed to ascend to her Binary state in the event that she is being overwhelmed.

It should be noted that she can absorb energy through a variety of means. Most commonly, she intakes beams or fields of energy from her surroundings, via direct contact; that is to say, she touches the energy and absorbs it. However, she can also suck the energy directly out of an object, even if that energy is contained within said object and not being emitted. This can be done through physical contact or from a distance, meaning she can essentially pull the energy out of something or someone without needing to touch or be close to the target. In the event that she is in close proximity with black or white holes, or some other source of massive energy, she can likewise tap into that power without needing to actually be in contact with the power source.

It is somewhat inconsistent whether Carol’s absorption is active or passive. There are a fair number of instances in which she has been caught off-guard by an energy blast and thus fails to absorb it. However, she has also been explicitly caught off-guard by a blast from Black Panther, and still absorbed it, though it did hurt. Subsequently, when she was on-guard, she was able to absorb the same blasts with no such pain. Lastly, there are some cases where her absorption is presented as entirely passive, even allowing her to absorb things while unconscious. The Mighty Avengers: Most Wanted Files guidebook attempts to explain her occasionally taking damage with the justification that her absorption is “rarely instantaneous” unless she is prepared, essentially confirming that she can be caught off-guard.

Likewise, it is inconsistent whether there is an upper limit to the amount of energy that Carol can absorb. There are several instances where she has been overloaded, or where it has been otherwise established that she does have an upper limit. Sometimes she’s even been depicted as being in danger of exploding or dying if she absorbs too much. However, these instances are pretty strongly contradicted by the existence of Binary, as she should simply undergo a transformation if she is truly pushed beyond her limits. As Binary, as well, she explicitly has completely limitless reserves of energy, never running out of power and being impervious to overloading because of the fact that her reserves are unlimited. With this in mind, the most consistent answer is that there is not an upper limit, so long as Carol is not attempting to absorb a form of energy that she cannot absorb safely in the first place.

This is somewhat rare, but not unheard of. She could not absorb Cobalt Man’s energy blasts, for instance, nor the energy of an alien ship. Though, the exact reason why not is, in both cases, unexplained. Moreover, in many instances, even if energy is deliberately contaminated to make it difficult to absorb, Carol can still do so. For instance, Iron Man designed some of his suits to produce “tainted” energy that would harm Carol if she absorbed it, and she later adjusted for this issue, and subsequently could absorb them with no drawbacks. She has also absorbed energy from Mar-Vell that was described as “diseased,” and energy from Ultron, whose energy Absorbing Man could not absorb. With this in mind, she can actually absorb the vast majority of energy sources without significant issue. The primary exception to this is magic, which will be covered in its own section.

In terms of sheer power, Carol has absorbed energy from a sentry that could overpower Thor, as well as blasts from Phyla-Vell, who has fought the Olympian gods. Warbird era Carol has absorbed the Starbrand’s power, which was able to short out Arcade’s energy absorbing tech. This same version of Carol absorbed an attack from Starbrand Hank Pym that she claimed could have killed all of the heroes present, including a weakened King Thor. Much later down the line, a modern Carol could absorb energy blasts from Ego the Living Planet.

Now, let’s cover her showings against specific types of energy, at least insofar as they are notable. Starting with…

Heat & Fire Absorption

While you may not immediately think of fire as energy that can be absorbed, Carol has been shown on many occasions to be capable of drawing power from flames, more specifically the heat that they emit. This includes regular fire and lava, battery gas from a lithium fire, and even more powerful sources, like stars. Even if Carol is unconscious, she is capable of absorbing heat around her, for instance from atmospheric reentry, to jumpstart her heart and resuscitate her. Once she has absorbed heat, she can convert it into other forms of energy for other purposes. Conversely, she can also convert other forms of energy into heat for her own use; electrical, repulsive, kinetic, it doesn’t matter.

Radiation Absorption

On occasion, Carol has shown difficulty safely absorbing nuclear radiation specifically, for instance being unable to absorb more than half the energy of a nuclear core without killing herself. However, she has shown to be perfectly fine in other instances. She has absorbed the energy of a thermonuclear warhead, and been directly exposed to nuclear blasts no worse for wear. Of course, she was also recently overtaxed and reduced in power after absorbing a nuclear blast in Armageddon, but that whole event was about nukes getting a lot more powerful and dangerous, so the exact threshold of how much nuclear radiation she can handle is nebulous.

In fact, due to her body’s ability to absorb EM radiation, it’s hard to x-ray her, so she’s actually passively absorbing incoming radiation all the time and is unable to stop doing so. What’s that, you ask? How is she not horribly Vitamin D deficient if she constantly absorbs any radiation and can’t turn it off? Haha… next question.

Electricity Absorption

Carol has a number of showings demonstrating that she can safely absorb electricity, even from magical and/or immensely powerful sources. On the lowest end, this encompasses energy from wires in the ground or from power surges, but she has also absorbed electricity strong enough to tax Iron Man’s barriers, or from Monica Rambeau, whose electricity can harm Zeus. You know, the Greek god of lightning. After Carol absorbed said electricity from Monica, she was able to use that energy to amp the rest of her powers, and fire a giant blast of light from her chest that oneshot a giant robot.

Perhaps most impressively, Carol was able to absorb lightning bombardment from All-Father Thor for hours, empowering herself with his blasts until she was strong enough to defeat him. Worth noting: the actual timeline here makes it unclear whether Thor has the Odinforce or not. This takes place prior to the first issue of Thor’s 2020 run, since he still has his prosthetic arm and eyepatch, but Carol calls him the king, meaning he’s already All-Father. Basically, this means that the fight takes place during a several month time skip, during which Thor gains the Odinforce. With that in mind, it is ambiguous whether the fight takes place before or after his power boost. However, absorbing blasts of lightning from Thor for hours is extremely impressive, regardless of whether he has the Odinforce or not.

Neuroelectricity Absorption

A recent application of Carol’s energy absorption, and arguably her most deadly, is the ability to absorb the neural electricity out of a target’s brain, draining the signals that would normally allow for conscious thought and control of their body, until they are left with nothing. This ability was powerful enough to completely incapacitate a full power She-Hulk in moments, and according to Carol it would have killed anyone other than a Hulk.

She was even able to use the same tactic effectively against Ego the Living Planet, nearly putting him to sleep, though he was able to use his powers to force her off of him in time to remain conscious. Notably, when she did so, she was able to connect her own mind to Ego’s and read his thoughts.

Kinetic Energy Absorption

Little known fact: Carol isn’t just capable of absorbing energy in the form of blasts and charges; she can also absorb the kinetic energy from physical blows! No matter how you choose to hit her, all of that energy will be absorbed and internalized, stored up until Carol rebounds it onto her attacker tenfold. This can either be used to increase the strength of her own strikes, or she can convert the kinetic energy into other forms and release it as, say, a blast, even one powerful enough to harm Symbiote Fin Fang Foom. Notably, though, she does still feel the impact of hits she takes, even if she is able to neutralize them, so she still needs to take the pain in order to use that force for her own means. Though, that’s no different from her other forms of energy absorption.

To put it more bluntly, this means that an opponent cannot circumvent Carol’s energy absorption simply by avoiding traditional energy attacks. Physical blows will empower her just as effectively.

Gravity Absorption

Though an ability that Carol has currently only used once, it has been shown that she is capable of absorbing gravitons, the particles responsible for gravitational force. Specifically, she was tricked into absorbing them by Moonstone, in an attempt to dramatically increase Carol’s own personal gravity and collapse her body into a black hole. However, Carol was able to counter this by converting the gravitons into gamma rays, and use those to empower She-Hulk.

Sound Absorption

Though you might not immediately intuit it as “energy,” Carol is fully capable of absorbing blasts of concentrated sound from Ulysses Klaw. She even comments her surprise at this, noting that she was unsure beforehand whether she would be able to.

Antimatter Absorption

On several occasions, Carol has absorbed energy willingly provided by Adam Brashear/Blue Marvel, who manipulates anti-matter. This is despite the fact that Carol is typically physically subjected to the things she absorbs, implying a degree of resistance to antimatter. Absorbing antimatter is frequently shown to be sufficient to initiate a Binary transformation.

Magic Absorption

Perhaps most important to cover in full would be Carol’s performance against magic, which is consistently much poorer than against other energy types. For large portions of her history, she was unable to absorb magic entirely, and even when she can do so, she tended to have difficulty with it. For instance, it might cause her intense pain, requiring her to discharge the energy to remain safe from it. Or it might knock her out, requiring her to be resuscitated, even if she does successfully absorb it. At one point, Carol went to Doctor Strange in hopes that he would help her eliminate this weakness entirely, but he laughed at her and refused, believing that someone as powerful as Carol should have a weakness, for the good of mankind. This is a perspective that the rest of the magic community shared as well, as they all collectively refused to train her.

However, your honor, fuck Doctor Strange. In the time since then (and occasionally beforehand) Carol has been shown to be capable of absorbing magic, often massive sources of it, without experiencing any such issue. For example:

Energy Redirection

Once Carol has absorbed energy from an external source, she does not necessarily need to hold onto it, as she can store the energy and then output it against opponents. She has, for example, fired incoming lasers back at the attacker, or used the energy of an explosion offensively immediately after absorbing it. Perhaps most impressively, she can store up the kinetic energy imparted onto her by physical blows, before rebounding it tenfold against the attacker.

Additionally, it is worth noting that while Carol can convert energy she absorbs into other forms to neutralize or repurpose it, she does not have to. There are many examples in which energy that she absorbs maintains its special traits when she makes use of it. For example, she was able to channel solar energy to amp Groot via photosynthesis, or store energy absorbed from Ultron for later analysis. Once, she channeled Iron Man’s repulsor blast like a prism, through a Cosmic Cube fragment that Captain America is holding, producing enough power to move the moon.

Energy Fields

Carol is capable of manipulating her energy to create energy fields, that is to say self-contained regions in midair where her energy is active. She can also manipulate and absorb such fields at will.

Energy Barriers

In the event that her normal energy aura can’t cut it, Carol can also create more durable and tangible barriers of energy around herself to defend from attacks. This can take the form of single-directional shields on her arm or in the air, as well as omnidirectional spheres around herself. These barriers can absorb any energy that comes into contact with them, and can hold out in the event that they are subjected to energy drain by an attacker.

Energy Constructs

Carol is capable of manipulating her energy to form hard constructs to attack with. This was most prominently used during her Warbird era, where she frequently created energy blades extending from her arms. Alternatively, she can make giant swords out of energy, which she has described as “flaming photon swords” and can oneshot giant kaiju.

Energy Enhancements

Carol’s energy manipulation is, in essence, the source of all her other powers, from her flight to her physical abilities. Because of this, absorbing more energy will enhance all of her other powers, while expending energy will in turn weaken them. This ranges from simpler things, like charging her punches and kicks with energy to smash through more durable opponents, to more complex things like drawing on her internal power reserves to close off her need to breathe. Absorbing energy from Cyclops could improve her resistance to mental attacks, while getting her energy absorbed by the Undone slowed down her healing factor. Even things like her lifting strength tie in with her energy reserves, as when she absorbed electricity from rail lines, it made it much easier for her to lift a train.

Because of this mechanic, Carol typically stockpiles energy so that she always has some stored up, even maintaining her energy reserves while unconscious. In such a state, though not cognizant, she is able to draw upon her energy reserves to protect her from things like freezing to death. In the event that she is drained, she has insinuated that she will “recharge” herself upon getting the opportunity.

Energy Sensing

Thanks to her ability to absorb energy, Carol possesses a supernatural attunement to energy sources, allowing her to detect them. For example, she was able to sense Glomm’s energy source – his sole internal organ (described as his brain/heart) – and crush it.

Energy Duplicates

During Carol’s 2019 run, at which point she was becoming rapidly more powerful, she learned to manifest an energy avatar of her own Binary form, projecting it separately from her body, kind of like a Stand. After manipulating her energy and shaping it into this Binary-like entity, it was able to phase through the container Carol was trapped in and then destroy it, freeing Carol’s actual body. Once this was done, Carol reabsorbed the energy back into herself.

Shortly after, she did this again, but the second energy manifestation was different than the first. Because it was summoned on a planet which was seeded with Mar-Vell’s DNA and Phoenix energies, the new Binary was both tangible and sentient, with free will and access to all of Carol’s memories. It was also much stronger than the first energy projection, and capable of siphoning energy from Carol to become even stronger. It was able to destroy Vox Supreme, though was later killed by the Brood.

In a standard scenario, Carol should be capable of replicating the first, intangible Binary duplicate that she created in space. However, manifesting a fully sentient and autonomous Binary required external factors (Mar-Vell DNA and Phoenix energies), thus she could not replicate the second one in an ordinary situation.

Seventh Sense

Most prominently showcased at the beginning of her history, Carol has a “Seventh Sense” that gives her precognitive awareness of her surroundings. In combat, this allows her to sense what an opponent is going to do before they do it, or see attacks coming from her blind spots. Out of combat, it takes the form of trance-like visions that can show her events happening far away, up to hundreds of miles. This can even show her events that have not happened yet, such as her own death via fire, that she can then take steps to prevent.

However, as great as this all sounds, it’s a remarkably unreliable power. Carol cannot use it at will, and it oftentimes will simply not activate to warn her about incoming attacks. Furthermore, the visions that accompany its activation are often lengthy and will take her by surprise, incapacitating her temporarily (though this has never happened in combat). Shortly after the start of her history, this power became dormant as a result of her power fluctuations, but in her most recent comics, it has actually come back and started activating again. During this period, she showed the ability to tap into her own “future memories” with the Seventh Sense. She has even received some advice from Jessica Drew about how to control it, given that it is somewhat similar to the Spider-Sense, but it remains to be seen whether she will ever master the ability.

Regeneration

Carol possesses a natural healing factor, which comes up less often than you would think but is actually relatively potent. For example, when impaled all across her body by massive blades (pic above), she was able to burn those blades out of her body with her energy, and heal quickly from those wounds, even while her healing was slowed. On another occasion, when she had gauntlets attached to her arms that were subjecting her to an illusion and memory modification, she burned the gauntlets off of her own arms with laser vision, literally searing the flesh from her bones in the process. Despite her forearms being reduced to nothing but bone, she healed the flesh back within a few pages and was good as new. On another occasion still, when she had a power siphoning device implanted in her chest, she was able to pierce into her chest and rip it out with her bare hand. So yeah, her healing is pretty hardcore.

On top of that, absorbing energy from her surroundings not only speeds up her healing, but also can do things like restart her heart and force her to regain consciousness. In the event of a foreign mass invading her body, her healing factor will naturally expel it, and she can even heal from brain hemorrhages, though will still lose memories from them. At one point, when her entire body exploded into energy, that energy was able to remain intact and form into four energy beings, which were re-combined back into Carol. However, this required outside assistance and she could not return to normal on her own.

Lastly, the Nega-Bands may boost Carol’s regeneration substantially. When she was originally blasted by the Psyche-Magnitron’s radiation, she unconsciously tapped into the power of Mar-Vell’s Nega-Bands to rebuild her body cell by cell. Now that she is in possession of the Nega-Bands, she may be capable of replicating this again. This is actually consistent with regenerative showings from other users of the Nega-Bands; Genis-Vell for instance was able to use his Nega-Bands to pull himself back together from pure energy after being molecularly disintegrated.

Superhuman Eyesight

Though not a commonly-shown ability, Carol’s eyesight has been established to far exceed that of a normal human. With the naked eye, she detected a seam on Doomsday Man’s neck that would normally have required a microscope to be seen.

Molecular Alteration

While this ability is very limited and has never been used in any offensive manner, Carol does change clothes by rearranging the molecules around her body, allowing her to conjure her costume seemingly out of nowhere.

Cosmic Awareness

This may be vaguely related to her Seventh Sense, but Carol has used this power a few times during periods in which she was not supposed to have the Seventh Sense anymore, and could do so at will, so it seems to be distinct. In short, she can perceive and interact with the energies of the cosmos, even without Binary. In doing so, she can do things like sense the source of a strange energy, or integrate herself into Ultraman’s telepathic communication.

It’s worth noting that Carol originally had her powers awakened via the Psyche-Magnitron fusing her DNA with Mar-Vell’s, and he has his own cosmic awareness that other Captain Marvels like Genis-Vell and Phyla-Vell would later inherit. This cosmic connection allows the Vells to perceive the entire multiverse and its many possibilities with near-omniscient awareness, so it would be a pretty big deal if Carol could replicate their feats with it. However, Mar-Vell first gained his cosmic awareness from the being Eon after Carol got her powers, and whenever any of the Vells use their cosmic awareness, it’s visually signified by a star field appearing on their skin, called the cosmic ether. That’s why Genis looks so space-y all the time; he never turns his off. Since Carol’s uses of cosmic awareness do not feature the cosmic ether, it’s clear her ability is different from theirs. Probably for the best, considering it drove Genis insane.

Thunderclap

As Carol herself has acknowledged, this is more of a Hulk ability than a Captain Marvel ability, but she is capable of doing it should the need arise. By clapping her hands together with immense concussive force, she can produce a shockwave of sound intense enough to knock the people near her unconscious.

Resistances

Vulnerabilities

This section will encompass hax abilities that Captain Marvel has fallen victim to, and has no particular resistance against. While her performance against some abilities vary, with showings both positive and negative, this list will consist of those with only negative showings. Note that this also does not include abilities that she hasn’t encountered, which she should also have no special resistance to.

Equipment

Hero Costumes

Carol has worn many costumes throughout her tenure as a superhero, with three main noteworthy examples: her original red Ms. Marvel costume, the black Ms. Marvel costume, and then her modern Captain Marvel apparel, which has varied since her change in moniker.

In terms of combat-applicable traits, her original red costume was the most noteworthy of the bunch, given that in the aftermath of her initial exposure to the Psyche-Magnitron’s radiation, it was actually her costume that was responsible for most of her powers. Because of this, damaging the suit could prevent her from flying, or remove her defenses against the vacuum of space. However, after a second batch of radiation, this was quickly phased out, and the powers became innate to her. It is not really explained how the initial costume-based powers gel with the retcon that she was actually Kree all along, so you can probably consider this a case of early installment weirdness.

Moving on to the black costume, Carol’s suits tend to be made of Unstable Molecular Fabric, which she originally received as a gift from Janet Pym. Unstable Molecular Fabric is extremely durable but still maintains its elasticity, boasting high resistance to piercing damage, high temperatures, and is insulated against electricity. However, they do not protect from impacts, as a strong enough blow can still harm the wearer, even if it does not damage the fabric. Lastly, her modern suit has a cloak-field which prevents mind readers from probing her mind.

Nega-Bands

During her most recent solo run, Carol acquired Genis-Vell’s Nega-Bands, a pair of golden bracelets which transform mental energy into physical, facilitating a number of incredible abilities. She uses them continuously throughout the entire run in her ongoing conflict with the Undone, before they were destroyed at the end of the run. However, these Bands are an extremely important part of the Captain Marvel mythos and the lore of the Kree, originally wielded by Mar-Vell, and then his son Genis-Vell, before finally transferring to Carol, at which point they were destroyed. With all this in mind, since they’re closely connected with Carol’s story and powerset, she had them for an entire solo run before they were destroyed, and she was the last of their three prominent wielders, we will be including them as a viable part of her arsenal.

What exactly do they give her, you ask? Well, that’s complicated. Carol herself primarily uses them for two purposes, the first being to travel between dimensions. By striking the bands together, Carol can swap places with a human that the bands are linked to, Yuna Yang, as well as create more general portals between worlds. Primarily, this allows her to travel back and forth between the main universe and the Negative Zone, but it can also be used to travel to other cosmic locations. For example, Genis frequently used them to travel to and from the Microverse, and in other continuities, technology based on the Nega-Bands could even bridge the main reality and the White Hot Room via the same principle.

Additionally, the Nega-Bands possess extremely powerful energy manipulation, far beyond even Carol’s own. They can absorb massive amounts of energy and project it outward in the form of photonic blasts. While it’s debatable whether Carol can tap into the bands’ full potential, since they seem to vary with the will of the wielder, Carol’s fight with the Undone actually overloaded and destroyed the Bands, something that has never happened with any other user. Genis-Vell notably was able to kill Eternity and then recreate reality with a new Big Bang, rearranging other timelines in the process, without damaging the Nega-Bands whatsoever. In practice, having an additional form of energy absorption is actually a substantial boon for Carol, since it bypasses a lot of her established weaknesses. For example, while she often struggles to absorb magic through her body, the Nega-Bands have no such issue. They also recharge the user’s energy passively by drawing energy from their surroundings, so while wearing them she should never run out of juice.

Technically, Carol has also showcased a third ability with the Nega-Bands, back in the 70’s when she was first irradiated by the Psyche-Magnitron. As alluded to in the Regeneration section, Mar-Vell’s Nega-Bands reconstructed her body on a cellular level at the time. This is actually rather consistent with regen feats from other users like Genis-Vell, whose Nega-Bands regenerated his body from molecular disintegration into energy, as well as cellular dissolution in another instance.

On that note, in addition to the abilities that Carol has shown so far, Nega-Bands also have showcased a vast variety of other abilities, when wielded by other notable users – those being Mar-Vell and Genis-Vell. Other characters like Quasar, Annihilus, and Phyla-Vell have also used similar weapons called the Quantum Bands, which are modeled after the Nega-Bands and have comparable powers. As mentioned before, the Nega-Bands’ power scales with the wielder’s willpower, so whether Carol can use all of these (or whether she would know about them) is up in the air. However, hypothetically, they can:

Lastly, while it’s highly dubious how reliable or consistent this statement is, the Marvel Arms & Armor guide, which includes information on numerous weapons throughout the Marvel Universe, describes the Nega-Bands as comparable in power to the Cosmic Cube and Ultimate Nullifier. Make of that what you will lol; technically the Nega-Bands also scale to the Quantum Bands, which are stated to be on par with Galactus and the Celestials by Captain America, and Genis with the Nega-Bands could kill Eternity, so maybe you could argue it’s consistent-ish if you want to get real crazy with it.

Warp Grenades

Thanks to her connections with Alpha Flight, Carol has been known to call in “omega-level” warp grenades which can teleport things to the sun. Handy for when she feels like burning someone alive and is feeling too lazy to just throw them.

Closet

Created for Carol by the cosmic being Singularity, who is a sentient pocket dimension, this special “closet” allows Carol to access said pocket dimension to hide stuff without being detected. Specifically, she used it to hide the rest of the Avengers when she was instructed to kill them by Vox Supreme. Because Singularity’s dimension is closed off from the outside world, Vox Supreme was unable to sense the Avengers within it, and thus believed that they were actually dead.

Forms

Binary

Upon undergoing experimentation by the Brood, which modified her DNA and forced rapid evolution, Carol ascended permanently to a vastly more powerful state known as Binary, which became her status quo for years. Eventually, however, she was severed from that power, and for a long time could only access it again via absorbing energy from massive external sources. However, in recent years, her base form has become vastly more powerful, arguably exceeding even her former Binary state, and she can now assume the form at will, without needing to absorb energy. Nowadays, T’Challa has described the Binary form to simply be a state that Carol enters when she stops holding back. Basically, it’s just Super Saiyan now.

So what can Binary do exactly? Well, for starters she has infinite energy, and I mean literally infinite. Like, a guy who can access the upper limit of someone’s power couldn’t access Binary’s power because there was no upper limit. Because of this, the original Binary never ran out of juice, and could very casually produce power equivalent to a star to regenerate matter and antimatter cores. Primarily, she draws this unlimited power from the primal fabric of the universe itself, as well as black and white holes in her vicinity. However, she can also draw energy from stars, other characters, pretty much anything.

With this energy, she can create white holes inside of stars, powerful enough to vacuum up antimatter contaminating it and reignite said star. She can match Heralds of Galactus like Firelord and Terrax, cause Captain Britain to cry out in pain, and blast Rogue to the moon casually. When her powers go out of control and start radiating waves of anti-gravity, she’s capable of instigating the demise of all life forms within an entire sector of space. Likewise, she created a white hole star capable of going supernova and destroying any planet within 10 to 15 light years, and on a different occasion she was capable of blowing up a section of the galaxy.

Binary can take on foes like the Gladiator or Hyperion, as well as the Collective, whose might rivaled the Sentry. In more recent comics, she easily overpowered Ove, who had Namor’s strength and the Enchantress’ magic. She could absorb large portions of the Phoenix’s energy, though needed to discharge that energy in order to safely handle it. While in her weakened state, she was able to absorb 86% of a massive black hole. She could traverse the galaxy unaided, and survive blasts from the Builders, whose ships are reputed to be planet-killers. When connecting to a white hole in another dimension, she risked extinguishing the newly-formed universe on the other side, with similar baby universes in Marvel possessing enough power to destroy full-sized universes.

On top of sheer power, she has access to a vast range of abilities. She can generate heat, light, radiation across the spectrum, and gravity, as well as energy in all its various forms. Her gravity manipulation functions similarly to telekinesis, and she could easily power a stargate machine which creates portals to other galaxies. She possesses an ambient heat aura that can liquefy alien metals, even from a distance. While in her Binary state, her perceptions and awareness of the cosmos are massively enhanced, allowing her to sense things as distant as black holes, or as precise as other people’s heartbeats. Her powers as Binary were able to penetrate and overload Lord Ennui’s entropic field, which can age things, slow them down, dissipate energy, drain life force, and dissolve molecular bonds, making him normally completely untouchable. But not against Binary.

White Binary

While it is not explicitly clarified whether this is “technically” distinct from her normal Binary form, it is drawn differently even by the same artist in the same run, and is narratively insinuated to be, at minimum, a more powerful variation. For that reason, we will delineate it as a separate transformation.

After being kidnapped by the Brood again and experimented on again, Carol witnessed the death of Binary, whom she had previously separated from herself (energy duplicate, remember?). Her sheer rage at Binary’s death allowed her to break free of the Brood’s imprisonment and undergo a “wild powerup,” at which point she completely decimated the Brood. In this state, her body became pure energy, capable of flying to the deepest reaches of space or siphoning the power of a white hole. She could effortlessly blow up the planet, and with the energy of a star boiling inside of her, she could have gone supernova and created a black hole that would devour all of existence, “or at least some of it.” It took Rogue siphoning off some of Carol’s newfound power and anger to stabilize her, though this did not cancel the transformation.

Of note, the Brood had previously implanted a bomb inside of her that was designed to target only Kree DNA. Upon transforming, Carol was able to use matter manipulation to change the bomb’s effects, so that it would target Brood DNA instead of Kree. By releasing a wave of this explosion, she was able to destroy the Brood DNA inside the nearby Broodlings while leaving the hosts unharmed. However, she says later on that this was a one-time thing, so it was likely reliant on the Brood bomb, and she cannot just DNA nuke people whenever she wants. Sad!

In a possible future, White Binary Carol was able to reignite the sun, though transformed fully into energy to do so and thus sacrificed her own life.

Feats

Overall

  • Member of Alpha Flight
  • Prominent member of the Avengers, and has led the team for extended periods
  • Journeyed through space with the Starjammers, defending the universe from cosmic threats
  • Successfully overcame her struggles with alcoholism and got sober
  • Reignited the sun on two separate occasions
  • Aided in stopping the Skrulls during Secret Invasion
  • Battled and defeated Iron Man in the second superhero Civil War
  • Defeated Moonstone, Warren Traveler, Star, Sindr, Ove, Vox Supreme, The Undone

Power

Lifting (Direct)

Striking (Direct)

Pulling/Crushing/Grappling

Striking (Scaling)

Energy Blasts

Absorption

Binary

White Binary

Speed

Flight

Reactions

Scaling (Flight)

Scaling (Combat)

Depowered

Durability

Blunt Force

Piercing

Energy

Explosions

Heat Resistance

Scaling

Pain Tolerance

Stamina

Scaling

Overview

Prior to 2019, base Carol was a relatively mid tier Marvel character, on par with the likes of Iron Man and capable of scaling to weaker versions of Hulk like Joe Fixit, but broadly speaking wouldn’t scale much higher than that. Though, she does have some high-end showings against characters like Wonder Man. She also has a good showing against Blastaar.

However, starting from her 2019 run onward, Marvel started generally portraying her at a higher level of power, capable of running a gauntlet against every major Avenger (Thor, Iron Man, Black Panther, She–Hulk, Cap) and beating them all 1v1 fair and square. She’s fought and defeated powerful Asgardian deities like Sindr, and achieved victory against the Undone, who believed her energy would sate her permanently. With the Nega-Bands, she is shown to be comparable to Genis-Vell and Phyla-Vell, and she has some really good miscellaneous showings against Ego and the like. This would broadly make her a heavy-hitter on a similar level to the likes of the Hulk or base Thor.

Binary, meanwhile, straight-up is a heavy hitter, having fought the Heralds of Galactus, villains like the Collective who are on par with Sentry, and so on. Keep in mind that Carol’s modern base form has arguably surpassed her prior peak, and she can access Binary whenever she wants.

Earth’s Mightiest Heroes

Based on her fights with Thor, Hulk, and Iron Man, Carol should scale to most of the strongest Avengers nowadays (and other comparable characters), both in base and with Binary.

Supervillains

By extension, Carol should scale to a variety of Marvel’s powerful supervillains.

Heralds of Galactus

Binary Carol has fought on par with Firelord and Terrax, making her comparable to Galactus’ Heralds, most especially the Silver Surfer.

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Carol has always been comparable to Mar-Vell, has showings suggesting she’s on par with Monica Rambeau, and was able to defeat Phyla-Vell in base during her 2019 run. With the Nega-Bands, she is shown to be comparable to Genis-Vell in the 2023 Captain Marvel run, though notably Genis has undergone a lot of weird power and sanity fluctuations over the years, so whether this is a “peak” Genis is a bit up for debate. That being said, even on an average day, Genis-Vell is incredibly strong, and Carol’s fight with the Undone overloaded and destroyed the Nega-Bands, something Genis never did even at his peak insanity. It’s also worth noting that there’s a fairly recent statement that Genis has gotten stronger than he used to be, so you could make a pretty strong case for Carol scaling to even his best showings.

The Undone

Carol was able to damage the Undone and overwhelm and kill her with the Nega-Bands. The Undone viewed Carol as the ultimate snack, a source of energy that would sustain her forever.

Weaknesses

As previously mentioned, Carol technically has a relatively consistent weakness to magic, as it is something that she has no affinity for, and on various occasions it has shown to hurt her if she tries to absorb it. Indeed, Doctor Strange wouldn’t teach her magic because he thought she should have a weakness, to balance out her incredible power. However, she does have a decent chunk of good showings in which she absorbs various forms of magic without drawbacks. With the Nega-Bands, she bypasses the issue entirely.

While it may seem easy to look at the vast breadth of what Carol can absorb and assume that she can absorb anything without limitation, the reality is a bit more nuanced than that. Different types of energy can require a different level of effort to a degree, and generally she needs to endure the energy she’s intaking in order to process it safely. This is especially true of kinetic energy absorption, where she feels the full brunt of the hits she’s taking, and needs to withstand them in order to dish that force back, making it a risky tactic. Finally, while she has some showings of absorbing subconsciously, her absorption is generally active and she can still be hurt by energy if caught off-guard. Carol also recently had her powers reduced due to being overtaxed by a supercharged nuclear blast, which is kind of dumb and doesn’t make sense, but could maybe suggest that a large enough volume of nuclear energy specifically could take a toll on her powers. The exact explanation of why her powers were reduced is nebulous currently, however, and it may just be an inconsistency.

Additionally, it shouldn’t go unmentioned that Carol can be fairly stubborn and hotheaded, quick to endanger herself for the sake of helping others, or continuing toward specific goals through sheer conviction that she is right. This is what led to the events of Civil War II. It is worth emphasizing, however, that Carol’s extreme behavior during Civil War II was… let’s go with “out of character” and “weird.” She’s typically much, much less shortsighted and obstinate, though certainly not immune to making mistakes. Her alcoholism from the early 2000’s comes to mind. Regardless, in the time since Civil War II, Carol has explicitly learned from her mistakes and has become much more of a team player, even leading the Avengers for an extended period with great success. She’s also been sober for years, so that’s something she’s overcome as well.

Shazam

Background

  • Full Name: William Joseph “Billy” Batson
  • Age: Varies from 10-18 years (normally) | 85,000 years (One Million)
  • Height: 5’4” (Billy) | 6’2” (Captain Marvel)
  • Weight: 125 lbs (Billy) | 215 lbs (Captain Marvel)
  • Aliases: Captain Marvel, The Captain, Shazam, Marvel, Big Red Cheese
  • Occupations: Student, Radio Host, Professional Orphan, YouTuber, Blogger (based?)
  • Affiliations: Marvel Family, Justice League, Justice Society
  • Likes: Stargirl, basketball, his family, Wonder Woman
  • Dislikes: Devilish Evildoers, Lawyers, Vaccines
  • Popularized the phrase “Holy Moley!”
  • Design based on Fred MacMurray
  • Jimmy Olsen’s favorite superhero

Soaring high in the sky above the streets of Fawcett City is a valiant superhero who always saves the day. With the speed of lightning and the strength of a million men, he’s not a bird or a plane: he is Captain Marvel, Earth’s Mightiest Mortal! Whether pitted against the machinations of Doctor Sivana or the devious Mister Mind, this champion of justice will never rest in his neverending crusade against scum and villainy. But would you believe that beneath the lightning and spandex lies not a man at all, but a young boy?

Orphaned from a young age, Billy Batson never fit in, but found new purpose after a fateful train ride to the legendary Rock of Eternity. Upon meeting an ancient wizard, Shazam (or Mamaragan depending on the continuity), he was chosen to become the Wizard’s champion, and after speaking the magic word aloud, was transformed into the invincible Captain Marvel.

And so, the boy became a man, and the powerless orphan became a savior that people could rely on. With his bottomless courage and optimism, nothing could take him down, especially when he recruited numerous friends and allies to fight alongside him. From his long-lost sister Mary Marvel, to tenacious sidekick Freddy Freeman, to Steamboat, a racist caricature so offensive that even the 1940’s went “woah man, I don’t know about that one” and they stopped using him. Don’t worry, there’s also a talking tiger and a fat old guy! Much more whimsical.

But the childlike wonder of the Golden Age wouldn’t last forever. After Fawcett Comics were sued, mugged and robbed by Big Bro DC, Captain Marvel got snatched from his world and plopped into the grim and gritty pages of DC comics, just in time for his own universe to get erased. No more early comic hijinks for you, Billy my man, it’s serious business time!

also change your name to shazam pls marvel stole the other one kthxbye

But even as he found himself far from home, the threats got darker, and Shazam was progressively challenged by stronger foes like Black Adam, Billy’s good heart never diverged from the just path. As a member of the Justice League and Justice Society, he continued to defend the Earth from the likes of Neron, the Spectre, and even the Wizard himself, corrupted and evil as all comic book gods end up eventually!

But while Superman made for a great ally, Billy’s true team was always his Marvel Family. More than anyone else, Mary and Freddy understood what it meant to hold the world on your shoulders when you’re still just a child, and it was that – balancing his normal life with the responsibilities of heroism – that Billy struggled with more than any foe. Whether forced to take up the mantle of the Wizard, or acting as the last line of defense against the multiverse-ending Unkindness, being the Champion of Shazam was a greater burden than Billy ever could have imagined. Power fantasies are great when they’re still fantasies, but reality is rarely as kind.

Even so, the legacy of Shazam – the hero who inspired hope across the world, with his smile and earnestness, would continue onwards. Even 85,000 years in the future, he still lives on, fighting the good fight for us all. Because that’s what it means to be a hero. What it means to be a Marvel.

Forms

Billy Batson

(Art by Sii-SEN)

While it’s easy to jump straight to the man, the myth, the legend, the boy behind the god is perhaps just as important. Orphaned from a young age, Billy is a bright and heroic young man, though it takes him some time for him to get there depending on the continuity. After becoming the chosen Champion of Shazam, he gained the power to speak the magic word and transform to and from a superhero at will. Despite his youth, his relative inexperience, and the absence of Solomon when he’s not transformed, Billy is deceptively clever, often thinking his way out of dangerous situations even while stuck in human form. Though his enemies have frequently taken advantage of his powerlessness compared to Captain Marvel, he’s become an expert at finding new and creative ways to initiate his transformation.

Self-Defense Skills

While he lacks the god-given skill of Captain Marvel, Billy has received some basic training from Batman in self-defense. Don’t get too excited at the “Batman” part there, though; it’s pretty much just teaching him how to dodge and throw a punch if another kid is bullying him. He’s no judo master, but it gets the job done.

Hypnotism

Ah, Golden Age comics, never change. While not as adept as Captain Marvel would be with the Wisdom of Solomon backing him up, Billy has the ability to hypnotize animals into doing what he wants. Specifically, he does this to a monkey, concentrating his thoughts on what he wants the monkey to do until it obeys, removing the gag over his mouth. Obviously this is limited to simple creatures, but a worthwhile skill nonetheless.

Captain Marvel

The Big Red Cheese himself! After Billy has successfully said the thing Bart, he transforms into Earth’s Mightiest Mortal: the nearly invincible Captain Marvel! While we’ll be covering Captain Marvel’s many abilities in their own dedicated sections, it’s worth noting that he’s technically kinda-sorta his own being, distinct from Billy. While the two of them share memories, goals, and so on, mind control or spells that affect one often won’t affect the other, and they are sometimes even capable of communicating with one another mentally as though they are entirely separate people. With this in mind, if a situation calls for Billy rather than the Cap’n, all he has to do is say the thing again, and the lightning will revert him back to normal.

Abilities

The Magic Word

Solomon, Hercules, Atlas, Zeus, Achilles, and Mercury. Put ‘em together and what do you get?

Whenever he speaks the magic word, Billy Batson calls down a lightning bolt of tremendous power, which will transform him into Captain Marvel – and then back to Billy later, when he says the word again. Because this is such an important part of his transformation, the actual act of saying the magic word has received a fair amount of focus, with Billy oftentimes needing to find the opportunity to say it properly.

Many specific things have impeded this task, including but not limited to:

However, he has come up with quite a few clever workarounds over the years, including but not limited to:

Now, there is some nuance as to the exact effect of the magic word. On Earth-S (his Fawcett appearances), the lightning would always be conjured whenever he says the magic word with no exceptions. As a result he could be tricked into saying it to revert. This remained relatively consistent Post-Crisis, but was changed Post-Flashpoint to where he needed to say it with heroic intent, and would not transform simply by saying the word. However, after the Lazarus Planet event, where the warlord Nezha changed how magic works, it was established that he would once again transform every time he says the word regardless of context.

The Living Lightning

Once the magic word is spoken properly, Billy will be struck with the magical Living Lightning (sent down by the Wizard or by Zeus or both depending on the continuity) and transformed into Captain Marvel. This lightning is remarkable, as in addition to powering Billy up, it has a number of esoteric effects as well.

It can be used to:

As Captain Marvel and Billy Batson are separate beings, a hax ability affecting one of them will not necessarily impact the other, and they can thus switch back and forth to negate many such effects. This includes poison, mind control, memory erasure, and so on, though conversely there are some abilities like voodoo and size changing that will affect them both equally.

The lightning is incredibly fast, capable of reaching similar speeds as the Flash, and has such immense range that it can cross the entire universe. It carries sextillions of volts and is supplied by Zeus and the Wizard, making it a Godsphere level energy source (and potentially even higher).

While magical, the lightning is not necessarily dissimilar from normal lightning, as it can be used to charge normal machines such as an ATM. It’s also made of electrons and has established voltage numbers, so it is clearly electrical in nature. This is further backed up by the fact that Captain Marvel can instigate and deactivate his transformation via other lightning besides his own, having been transformed by bolts that are entirely non-magical, so long as they are comparable in power to his own lightning. At the same time, it is vastly more powerful than any ordinary electrical source, so being able to replicate its power level is easier said than done.

It’s also worth noting that there is at least one instance where Billy and Captain Marvel are able to resist being transformed by a sufficiently powerful lightning bolt, speculating that they may be in control of the transformation themselves, able to choose when they turn. Though it’s also noted that they are in a different world at the time, and that their ability to resist may have been because the rules there were different than normal.

Lastly, Billy’s transformation is obviously reliant on this lightning. If the lightning is blocked from reaching him by a barrier, absorbed by external sources, or if he is in an area where the Wizard’s power cannot reach, he will not be able to initiate a transformation. Though with enough time and cunning, he has managed to work around these sorts of situations before.

Wisdom of Solomon

While Captain Marvel is more known for his fists than his mind, the first of his six principle abilities is the Wisdom of Solomon, which may prove that mind does indeed triumph over matter. At its core, the Wisdom of Solomon effectively gives Captain Marvel the power to know almost anything, with Solomon telepathically projecting advice into his head at all times. This can range from in-combat strategies, to assistance on his academic tests, to more mundane everyday advice like “eat your veggies.” It can also give him knowledge of martial arts, the ability to perform complex mathematics and engineering feats, break him out of illusions, and so on.

On paper, this sounds completely broken, but while it is incredibly useful, it doesn’t make Billy literally omniscient; it’s much more nuanced than that. To begin with, Solomon himself doesn’t know everything. For example, there are tomes and grimoires throughout the DC universe that contain magical knowledge that Billy would hypothetically be able to implement if he knew it, but the Wisdom of Solomon explicitly cannot grant him this knowledge nor serve as a surrogate for the actual books. On top of this, being wise doesn’t necessarily make you smart. Even gifted with Solomon’s advice and the power to know most things, it’s still up to Captain Marvel himself to implement this knowledge or advice in an optimal way. He’s been caught off guard or tricked on countless occasions without the Wisdom of Solomon serving as a perfect warning signal.

Experience & Skill

While Billy himself has some basic self-defense training, as previously noted, and is notably clever and a good problem solver, much of his skill in combat is understandably granted to him by the Wisdom of Solomon. For that reason, we’ve elected to include this section under its associated power, rather than leave it separate as we otherwise might.

In terms of martial arts skill…

In terms of mid-combat intelligence…

In terms of conventional intelligence… While DC Captain Marvel is consistently portrayed closer to average in this regard, Fawcett Captain Marvel was a supergenius with the most powerful mind in the universe. Since we’re taking him at his best, this is fair game.

In terms of experience…

In terms of formal training…

In terms of accuracy…

In terms of information gathering…

In terms of exploiting weaknesses…

In terms of anti-feats…

Phasing

Holy cow! That dastardly Doctor Sivana is up to his old tricks, and has devised a way to become totally intangible! Even as the peerless Captain Marvel seizes upon him with his mighty strength, it’s as though he’s touching nothing but air. But never fear, for he possesses the Wisdom of Solomon! Thinking quickly, the captain manages to calculate the orbits and timing of each electron and each atom in his body. Once he understands the timing of his own atomic movement, he gains the power to move through walls the same as Sivana! With the playing field evened, it seems the evil scientist has met his match once again.

Superhuman Senses

While it’s not exactly specified that this is an ability related to the Wisdom of Solomon, it doesn’t really fall under the umbrella of any of his other powers, so it likely is. Captain Marvel’s hearing is much keener than that of a normal man, allowing him to overhear a conversation even from a large distance away. His smell is also enhanced, allowing him to detect that water has been doped with sleeping powder. He can see invisible ghosts thanks to his sharp eyesight. Finally, he can sense magic, detecting its presence in his vicinity and determining that there is no evil power remaining within a magic diamond.

Super Ventriloquism

(okay maybe DC had a point)

Once again not explicitly a Solomon-related power, but come on now. No way Atlas is sitting around doing this shit; only that geriatric scoundrel Solomon would be capable of such a devious skill. With uncanny talent, Captain Marvel can project his voice, making it seem as though the sound is coming from different places.

Strength of Hercules

Alright, enough of that nerd shit, time to get to the important part: PUNCHING! Even by DC’s lofty standards, Captain Marvel is truly incredibly strong, even in the same realm as heavy hitters like Superman and Wonder Woman. No foe is too mighty to be felled by his ferocious blows.

In terms of lifting and pushing… Obviously Captain Marvel can effortlessly lift planes, mountains, glaciers, and even entire continents, pushing around areas like, say, Antarctica. He’s carried 450 trillion cubic feet of frozen oxygen through space, and even moved planetoids comparable in size to the entire Atlantic Ocean. Another such planetoid, he shoved into the mouth of a planet-sized dragon, which he then proceeded to blow up from the inside and then moved its corpse like it was no big deal. He’s pushed the moon back into position, halted the Earth itself, and has moved stars both living and dead. Perhaps most impressively, he was able to help lift the infinitely-heavy Book of Limbo alongside Superman. And as Chad James once said, what’s half of infinity? In-fucking-finity!

In terms of striking… His blows can smash planetoids, atomize meteors (even those larger than any that have ever fallen to Earth), and have been compared to the power of a bursting sun spot. He’s punched people and objects into space so hard they go into orbit, and once destroyed a fleet of ships by using a tree like a pool cue. He can fly with enough speed and force to smash planets, or even split them in half, and it’s been said that even the strongest structure in the universe would shake under his punches. No surprise when you consider that in battle with Lobo, their exchanged blows rocked the entire cosmos.

In terms of throwing… The captain has tossed torpedoes into space, and huge chunks of burning earth into the sun. When throwing objects into space, he can hurl them so hard they catch fire in the atmosphere, smash falling meteors, or go all the way to the moon. Perhaps most impressively, he was able to throw the corpse of a planet-sized dragon into the sun, incinerating it.

In terms of pulling and grappling… Captain Marvel has broken out of bindings on multiple occasions. He’s held back blimps from taking off, caught a plane with a telephone wire, and sealed up a fissure in the earth through sheer strength. Most impressively, he was able to use large chains and anchors to restart the Earth’s rotation after it stops, pulling it back into motion.

In terms of grip and crushing… He has compressed a tornado into a solid sphere with his bare hands, and contained explosions with his grip, rendering them harmless. He can easily warp substances as well, peeling a shotgun in half or bending the entire St. Louis Arch.

In terms of digging/boring through things… He can tunnel through massive amounts of earth, for instance through 4000 miles of solid rock, or all the way into the core of a dead star.

In terms of scaling to other characters… Captain Marvel is on par with other Champions of Shazam like Mary Marvel and Black Adam. He is also on par with the Justice League’s heavy hitters, including Superman, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, and Green Lantern. Perhaps most impressively, he was able to fight and knock out Superboy-Prime with help from Black Adam, cementing him as an S-tier in terms of strength.

Super Breath

While Captain Marvel hasn’t ever personally used this, when Superman was changed to have Billy’s powers temporarily, he still had his super breath, meaning Captain Marvel hypothetically should too. Intuitively, this makes sense given that the Strength of Hercules should extend to Billy’s lungs as well, but since he’s never done it, he probably won’t be pulling it out anytime soon.

Stamina of Atlas

A boon granted by the titan Atlas, famous for holding up the heavens for eternity, the Stamina of Atlas naturally grants Captain Marvel the capacity to operate indefinitely without tiring. Whether it be battling for hours, conjuring lightning for a whole night, holding his breath as long as he needs to in the vacuum of space, and so on, the good captain can keep fighting the good fight for an unlimited amount of time with no need for rest or sustenance.

This also grants him eternal life, with specific future versions of Billy having lived for tens of thousands of years, though if he reverts back at any point, all those years will catch up to him. Likewise, even if he’s forced to age through magic, he’ll maintain his exceptional stamina even as an old man.

Power of Zeus

As you would expect from the Big Zeus himself, the power that his mighty magic lightning offers Billy is one of the most exceptional abilities in his arsenal. With the ability to blast lightning from his body or down from the sky, charge it into his blows, or empower himself and others, Captain Marvel’s electrokinesis is a truly versatile weapon. Zeus has destroyed beings like the Shattered God and threatened the likes of Darkseid, so his sheer might is nothing to sneeze at.

In terms of the lightning’s power…

In terms of the lightning’s speed, range, and size…

In terms of special abilities…

Power Sharing

Billy and other users of the Living Lightning have the exceptional ability to split their power and bestow it to other beings, empowering them as equal Champions of Shazam. Billy himself has used this to empower his siblings Mary Marvel and Freddy Freeman, as well as some other individuals like Superman, or Tawky Tawny the tiger. Black Adam has used it to juice up the Flash, and Mary has used it to amp Wonder Woman enough to defeat gods like Hera. Because the power is split evenly between individuals, each user is weaker than they would be with the entirety of the power, which has led villains like Black Adam to attempt to retake the Lightning from other users. But while they may seem weaker divided, their stalwart teamwork more than makes up for it. That’s the power of found family, baby!

Black Hole Creation

(97 FOE moment)

The frame. When increased to giant size, Captain Marvel once mixed the Strength of Hercules with the Power of Zeus, and punched Mister Mind’s robot so hard he compressed the fabric of light into a singularity, creating a black hole larger than buildings. This sucked in the robot and even Captain Marvel himself, spaghettifying them both and reverting Captain Marvel back into Billy.

Courage of Achilles

The blessing of Achilles gives Billy superhuman courage and willpower, allowing him to do tasks that almost no one else would be able to accomplish by themself, and resist effects that drain bravery. This makes him fearless and unflappable, especially in combination with Billy’s own natural courage. Very handy when you’re a teenage boy fighting world-ending supervillains. Helps with the, uh… trauma.

Invulnerability

More importantly, though, the Courage of Achilles extends beyond… well, courage. It also makes his body nearly indestructible and invulnerable to most forms of attack, not unlike Achilles himself. Even attacks from Superman, or the even stronger Superboy-Prime, are well within the range of what Captain Marvel can endure. It’s worth noting, however, that he is not truly indestructible, and enough force can still damage him.

Against blunt force… His body is harder than diamonds, allowing him to tank blows from iron weapons, anvils, and five ton weights, with only the weapons coming out damaged. He shrugged off being hanged, and tanked a hit from a falling meteor. Once, Black Adam threw him around the entire planet, and he was completely fine.

Against piercing… Bladed weapons tend to break against him; everything from swords, to steel knives, to the teeth of a sabertooth tiger. Bullets likewise have no effect on him, even automatic fire from airplanes, and on occasion they’ve been known to bounce off and kill the shooter. Once, a 100 horsepower chromium steel buzzsaw hit him in the back, and all it did was scratch an itch. This has made Billy pretty daring when it comes to piercing weapons; he’s shot himself in the head knowing it wouldn’t hurt him, and once bit a sword into pieces and swallowed the shards just to prove he could.

Against energy… Most energy attacks don’t do anything to him, and it’s been stated that only power comparable to his could ever destroy him. Even so, he’s endured his own lightning, heat rays, getting shot with enough power to blow a hole through a mountain, blasts of atomic energy, and the most powerful bolt of electricity ever made.

Against explosions… Captain Marvel has endured many massive explosions, atomic, hydrogen, and so on. A million tons of dynamite? No problem. A “triple-trillion TNT shell”? Light work. A continent-busting cannon? Blew up on top of him and he was fine. 16 thousand million times more explosive force than the atom bomb? He might seem scared, but he’s just acting! That’s not even mentioning that he’s survived a planet (or a planet-sized dragon) exploding on top of him with no damage, or the blast of a missile that could have blown up the Sun. Just stop trying to nuke this guy tbh, it’s not gonna work.

Against other characters… Captain Marvel has tanked his from Supergirl, Guy Gardner, Cyborg, and Starman’s magic rod. He’s taken a beating from Superman, both physically and from heat vision, and has obviously weathered Black Adam’s blows consistently. On the higher end, he’s even managed to endure the Spectre’s attacks, though not without extreme difficulty.

Limits… On that note, the captain isn’t indestructible. Outside of Spectre, other foes have nearly knocked him out or drawn blood with physical blows, with characters like Black Adam and Cyborg being able to make him bleed with no special method of attack. Energy guns have also done the trick before.

As Billy Batson… The kid is surprisingly tough, having tanked small explosions, as well as being launched from Venus to Earth inside a tornado that took several hours.

Resistances

(jesus christ)

Even if a hax ability manages to overcome his resistance, his magic invulnerability will often put him right again. For example, when his body was turned inside out by the deadly Tesseract Bomb, he was back to normal instantaneously between panels. With that said, while his invulnerability does extend to many different forms of attack, once again it isn’t flawless. Various hax abilities have still affected him. So it is important to keep in mind what he has and has not resisted before.

Esoteric attacks and effects that he has resistance against include:

Some of these abilities have affected him occasionally, but he has shrugged them off in other instances. On the other hand, abilities that he has consistently been affected by with no positive showings include:

Speed of Mercury

As the name implies, the Speed of Mercury grants Captain Marvel the ability to reach incredible velocities, both on foot and in flight. So much so, in fact, that he’s canonically ranked within the top ten fastest DC speedsters, though on the lower end of it. This means that he can outpace low-tier speedsters like Kid Flash, but falls short of faster beings like Superman, Wonder Woman, or the faster Flashes. Even so, that doesn’t prevent him from keeping up with DC’s speedier beings.

In terms of movement/general speed… Captain Marvel has a number of exceptional statements for his movement speed. He is explicitly faster than planes, human eyesight, sound, bullets, meteors, lightning, light, and any ship or craft in the Fawcett universe, some of which can travel at a million miles per second. He can outpace his own lightning, and “has unlimited speed at his disposal.”

In terms of flight speed… He isn’t just fast, he can also fly… really fast! Easily surpassing the speed of light and crossing massive cosmic distances, traversing between planets and stars in minutes or hours. Because of this, even if he is banished a great distance away, he can effortlessly return in a short time. He’s flown light years in seconds, 100 trillion miles in 100 minutes, and reached the center of the Milky Way, passing suns and planets by the hundreds. He’s crossed even greater distances too, whether it be six quintillion miles or 500 million light years. By exceeding the speed of light, he frequently reaches the Rock of Eternity, exiting space and time. Perhaps most impressively, he once located a spinning top located in the Bleed Space beyond the Orrery of Worlds, and then traveled to it.

In terms of combat speed… His attacks are “swift as a machine gun,” and he’s fought battles way faster than sound, or too fast for the eye to follow. When moving so fast, there’s barely a nanosecond between blows, and it feels like all his strikes are landing at the same time.

In terms of reaction speed… He’s caught bullets with his hands or mouth, and once even caught a thousand of them, smushing them into a ball and then throwing them back. This reaction speed has allowed him to catch onto interplanetary rockets.

In terms of thinking speed… His mind works with lightning speed, allowing him to calculate the source of some bombs, or solve a complex math equation with speed even greater than a mechanical calculator machine.

In terms of transformation speed (as Billy)… The little man is actually a consistent bullet timer, frequently transforming within a split second after bullets are fired, fast enough to intercept or tank the gunfire in question.

In terms of miscellaneous speed showings… Captain Marvel can swim incredibly fast, easily reaching a “mere” 300 miles per hour, which is described as taking it easy after a hard day. He can also throw things into space, to the moon, or into the sun, requiring exceptional throwing speed.

In terms of scaling… He’s fast enough to go blow for blow with Superman and impress Superboy-Prime with his speed. He’s also dodged charges from Flash and kept up with his speed, though this was explicitly not Flash’s top speed and Billy is canonically slower than him.

As Billy… Even the untransformed Billy Batson has managed to dodge a falling meteor.

Rapid Healing

While Billy doesn’t have too many showings in this regard, during his tenure as Marvel (more on him later) he mentioned that Mercury “does everything fast,” including healing, allowing him to recover from wounds much more rapidly than a normal human. In context, he said this shortly after using his lightning to heal Katana from a stab wound, so it may encompass damage as severe as impalement.

Weather Manipulation

By flying at great speed, Billy is able to herd weather patterns on a planetary scale, with enough precision that he can spell massive words out of clouds across the Earth’s surface. For a big lightning guy, though, this is a power he uses surprisingly rarely.

Time Travel

Billy’s primary method of time travel is via the Rock of Eternity, but he can also travel through time just by flying. Specifically, he can travel between the atoms to go back in time to to the Big Bang, accessing the Rock of Eternity through there. Though he notably hasn’t done this frequently, and has acknowledged it as dangerous.

The Rock of Eternity

At the end of space and time, far beyond the stars lies the dwelling place of the Wizard: the legendary Rock of Eternity. It was here that Billy first gained the powers of Shazam, and he maintains an instilled connection to the Rock of Eternity afterward. Essentially acting as a waystation between different universes, dimensions, and points in time, Captain Marvel can travel to and from the Rock of Eternity at will, and it grants him a variety of special boons. If the Rock of Eternity is destroyed, the foundations of the cosmos will collapse and the universe will be smashed to bits, though Billy is able to untether it from reality to prevent such a crisis.

Traversal

As mentioned above, the Rock of Eternity is connected to various locales across the multiverse. By traveling to the Rock of Eternity and then exiting from a different point, Billy can reach practically any destination imaginable, whether it be another one of the multiverse’s Infinite Earths, the past or future, the afterlife, or even higher dimensional spaces like the Fifth Dimension. Though, the Rock of Eternity itself is only an access point, and doesn’t automatically grant Billy the ability to operate freely in these places. For instance, he could only exist as the equivalent of a 2-dimensional drawing while in the Fifth Dimension.

BFR

With his magic, Captain Marvel can teleport other beings to the Rock of Eternity by force (or the Rock of Finality, the dark counterpart to the Rock of Eternity), having done so to the Wizard. The exact difficulty of escaping from the Rock of Eternity is somewhat inconsistent. In some cases, it’s been shown that people need Billy’s magic specifically to enter, and once there likewise do not leave without assistance, but in many cases, all you need to do to leave the Rock of Eternity is exceed the speed of light. Given that the Rock of Eternity’s purpose is primarily to access other locations, it’s probably not consistently intended that it be super difficult to leave.

Sealing

Fortunately, Billy has the means to make it super difficult to leave! At one point, Billy himself was bound to the heart of the Rock of Eternity, leaving him trapped there and unable to escape, though he was able to get out by absorbing the Rock into himself (more on this in a bit). Later on, he was able to use a similar power on other beings, most notably sealing Raven inside the Rock of Eternity in order to prevent her from wreaking havoc on the multiverse for as long as possible.

Similarly, the Wizard was able to seal the Seven Deadly Enemies of Man within the Rock in the distant past (though required outside assistance to do so), and Doctor Fate was able to seal Mordru in there, though Billy likely cannot directly replicate either of these showings as they are reliant on powers unique to those characters.

Illusions

While bound to the heart of the Rock of Eternity, Billy gained access to “every bit of magic that has ever been cast from it,” granting him some new abilities in exchange for being unable to leave. The main new ability that he showcased was the power to cast illusions, attacking Mary and Malik with false duplicates of himself. He also says “in here, as long as I imagine it, I can make it happen,” but whether he means through illusions or in actuality is unclear.

Empowerment

While a somewhat circumstantial power, after the Wizard’s death in the Post-Crisis continuity, Billy was sent to the Rock of Eternity to replace him. Left in charge and without the Wizard, Billy’s power was multiplied a hundredfold while within the Rock of Eternity. This would not apply in any circumstance where the Wizard is alive, but is useful in the event that he is not.

Scrying

While in the Rock of Eternity, Billy can see events happening in the mortal world.

Absorption

(let me show you how to scratch it)

Technically the Rock of Eternity has two different absorption-related powers. For starters, when Doctor Fate sealed the sorcerer Mordru within the Rock of Eternity permanently, the Rock’s ability to act as a magical power-accessing talisman meant that it continuously drained and weakened Mordru, leaving him powerless for a millennium.

Secondly, in the aforementioned case where Billy became linked with the Rock’s heart and imprisoned inside of it, he was able to absorb the Rock into himself. This allowed him to leave the Rock, but remain tied to it, using it to call on his other form as a part of himself now. This also severed the Wizard from the Rock of Eternity, locking him out of his seat of power temporarily.

Other

The Rock of Eternity is home to the Wizard’s many artifacts, which Billy has occasionally taken to make use of. It also contains a number of dimensions which are inhabited by each of Billy’s patron gods, though they do not always reside there.

Miscellaneous Magic

As the Champion of Magic, Captain Marvel has the potential to perform a vast variety of magical abilities and spells. While he has not fully explored this innate ability, some additional magic powers that he has displayed include:

Equipment

Book of Champions

Created by the Council of Eternity, this ancient tome contains documentation of every spell that has ever been weaved by those who sit on the seven thrones. Perhaps designed to be unusable by the unworthy, it is written in the “language of lightning,” and thus cannot be read by anyone other than the Wizard and his chosen champions. With this in mind, Billy is one of the few capable of reading it, but has only ever used it against his will, to cast a spell unlocking the doors between the many Magiclands and causing them all to begin merging together. In theory, it could likely grant him access to a much larger number of spells, but he doesn’t typically carry it around, and as a result the exact extent of this potential is vague.

King Solomon’s Ring

Normally kept within the Rock of Eternity, this ring is one of the Wizard’s many knick-knacks, and Billy was specially led to it via the Wisdom of Solomon. Previously having belonged to Solomon himself, the ring’s purpose is to banish demons, and Billy was able to use it to get rid of Mister Finish, a shapeshifting spirit disguised as a werewolf at the time.

Moly

The “holy moly” that he’s yapping about all the time! Famously depicted in the Odyssey, this holy herb renders those who eat it resistant to poison and magic, preventing them from being transformed by sorceresses like Circe. In Billy’s case, he acquired moly from the Rock of Eternity, and used it to counteract Medea’s attempt to turn him into a goat.

Amped States

Marvel

After the Wizard’s death during Day of Vengeance, Billy inherited his power, becoming the new master of the Rock of Eternity and gaining all the powers and abilities the Wizard had. The most obvious one being the power to bestow and rescind the powers of Shazam to other beings, but the Wizard is also as one with the Rock of Eternity, much more powerful than Billy is normally. During this period, Billy largely functioned within the Rock of Eternity, while Freddy took up the responsibilities of Captain Marvel. Or, uh, Shazam now.

Powers shown off by Marvel include:

Eventually, Black Adam and Isis used magical talismans to revert him mortal once more, stealing away his powers and severing him from the Rock of Eternity in order to empower Adam. As a result, this is no longer a standard powerset.

King Shazam

At one point, the Batman Who Laughs was able to corrupt Billy via a Batarang laced with Joker Venom, turning him into the evil and insane “King Shazam.” This isn’t really a “power amp” in the traditional sense, as Billy’s powers are the same as normal and his strength is not actually increased. However, in this state he lacks any of the restraint or mercy that Captain Marvel normally possesses, unleashing his full power with no regard for collateral. This allowed him to run a gauntlet against Atlas, Thor, Rao, and Ares, defeating all four of them back-to-back. Then he proceeded to fight Mary, manipulate her into dropping her guard, and then sucker punch her in the stomach and infect her too.

Fortunately, he was restored to normal thanks to Lex Luthor purging the dark metal’s corruption. Ah, that lovable scamp Lex, we can always count on him to come through for the good guys!

God of Gods

After Darkseid’s death disrupted the connection between Billy and his six patron gods, a new pantheon of deities emerged to empower him, far more powerful than those who had done so previously. They were:

With their powers combined, Billy became power incarnate, a God of Gods incomparable to what he once was. But one of these gods was a pretender. Zonuz was actually Yuga Khan, the father of Darkseid and former god of evil. Taking advantage of the situation to try and free himself from imprisonment within the Source, Yuga Khan set out to seize the Staff of the Living Lightning from Mamaragan, believing it would allow him to usurp Billy’s new powers, and use them to blow a hole through the Source through which he could make his escape.

Unfortunately, Yuga Khan is, to use the technical term, a fucking idiot, because the Staff of the Living Lightning never controlled Billy’s powers to begin with, so his plan was always impossible. So the God of Gods beat the stuffing out of Yuga Khan, forced him back into imprisonment, and took back his Source Manipulation for himself. All in a day’s work for the GOAT Billy Batson!

And then, y’know, an alternate universe Shazam with power absorption stole those powers from him permanently and he went back to normal. Nice Source Manipulation, dipshit, now check this out!

Feats

Overall

  • Highest selling superhero comic of the 1940s
  • The first superhero to be adapted into film
  • Thwarted Doctor Sivana so many times it’s impossible to count
  • Stopped Mister Mind’s plans to merge the Magiclands into one universe
  • Ended World War III by depowering Black Adam
  • Held his own in battle against the Spectre
  • Sealed and prevented Unkindness Raven from ending the world for as long as he could
  • Still alive by the time of DC One Million
  • Defeated Doctor Sivana, Mister Mind, Black Adam, Superman, Superboy-Prime, Satan

Power

Lifting/Pushing

Striking

Lightning/Magic

Throwing

Pulling/Grappling

Grip/Crushing

Digging/Tunneling

Scaling

Speed

Movement/General

Flight

Combat

Reaction

Thinking

Transformation

Miscellaneous

Scaling

Billy

Durability

Blunt Force

Piercing

Energy

Explosion

Scaling

Billy

Scaling

Champions of Shazam

Captain Marvel is explicitly equal to other users of the Living Lightning, such as Mary and Freddy, or even the fearsome Black Adam. In fact, when his power is split with other users, it becomes weaker, so he should be superior to other members of the Marvel Family when they are using a portion of his power.

The Justice League

In terms of strength at least, Captain Marvel is broadly comparable to the rest of the Justice League, having fought on even footing with Superman, Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter. He has also kept up with a casual Flash, though does not scale to his full speed. This pattern likely extends to other Justice League members as well, with Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern and Flash all having power amps and boosts that would put them on a level beyond him. But he should scale to all of them in base for the most part.

Superman

Wonder Woman

Green Lantern

The Flash

Aquaman

Martian Manhunter

Other

The Wizard

Captain Marvel, and his comparable foes such as Black Adam, are consistently able to pose a threat to the Wizard, capable of killing him or usurping his power. Given that the Wizard commands the Living Lightning Post-Flashpoint, he also serves as one of Billy’s many power sources.

The Olympian Gods

Given that he channels the Power of Zeus, with Zeus being the strongest of the Olympians, Captain Marvel should be comparable to any of the Greek Gods.

The Spectre

While Billy would not scale to the Spectre entirely, as he had aid from the Enchantress funneling other magic into him during their battle, he was able to hold out against the Spectre for a while, enduring his attacks with great difficulty. Black Adam has also smashed through the Spectre’s head, lending consistency to the idea that Champions of Shazam are a threat to the Spectre on at least some level. At his peak, however, Aztar is still superior.

Superboy-Prime

Billy was able to fight Superboy-Prime during his 2019 solo run, with some assistance from Black Adam. During this fight, he impressed Prime with his speed, endured his heat vision, and ultimately K.O.’d him via a combined attack with Black Adam. However, it should be noted that this occurred well before Death Metal, so he would only scale to Prime’s feats up to this point in time. No Darkest Knight scaling I fear.

Miscellaneous

As a Justice League heavy hitter, Billy is stronger and faster than the majority of the DC universe. This section is for additional feats he would scale to in addition to the aforementioned characters.

Weaknesses

It should probably go without saying that Captain Marvel’s biggest weakness is that he isn’t indestructible all the time. As Billy Batson, he’s vastly weaker and slower, vulnerable to many powers that Captain Marvel is not, and lacks special abilities of his own. Because of this, Sivana and many other villains have frequently based their tactics around either reverting Captain Marvel to Billy, or preventing Billy from transforming in the first place.

This can take many forms. If Billy is injured, incapacitated, mind controlled, or otherwise indisposed to the point of being unable to say the magic word, he obviously will not be able to transform. Since saying the word is required, tactics like gagging him or negating the sound of him saying the word can prevent a transformation. Since the lightning is required, blocking or absorbing the lightning before it reaches him can likewise render him unable to transform. Even if he does successfully turn into Captain Marvel, there are a number of ways that he can be forced back into mortal form. Removing the Living Lightning’s power from his body can revert him, and he can be coerced or manipulated into saying the word, even with the Wisdom of Solomon. Even without the Living Lightning specifically, other forms of lightning can revert him as well, provided they have power comparable to the Living Lightning, regardless of whether they are magical or not.

Finally, even outside of reverting him, the lightning and his powers as a whole are frequently tampered with. Their nature can be changed, negated, or dispersed between different beings, and these will have an equivalent effect on all of Billy’s lightning-granted powers. For this reason, an opponent capable of interfering with the Living Lightning would be the worst possible matchup for him.

Before the Verdict

As with prior comic rematch blogs, we’ll be offering retrospectives on both characters’ prior episodes. If you’re curious how Carol’s two episodes and Billy’s one hold up, this is the spot for you. Spoilers… they could be better!

Captain Marvel

Android 18 VS Captain Marvel

I’m a fan of Dragon Ball and familiar enough with 18 to comment on her side here, though obviously that won’t be the main focus. I will say that I actually think 18’s rundown is really weak and boring, it runs through her story in the first minute or two and afterward spends a lot of time talking about stuff that isn’t very important. I’m sure everyone is also already aware of things like 18 being incorrectly given the ability to absorb energy, and all the stuff about her being “possibly” planet level. In comparison, Carol’s actually comes off as a little stronger on rewatch, though of course has plenty of its own problems, and that is what I’ll be focusing on here.

“I love a powerful woman. Even better, one that keeps getting stronger and stronger. And today, we’ve got two of them!”

A lot of people understandably don’t really get the theme for this episode, which makes sense given the intro focuses on energy absorption as the main connective tissue, and that’s not actually a power that 18 has. Beyond that, it comes off like the fight is just happening because they’re blonde women who shoot energy and can fly.

I won’t pretend like this isn’t somewhat accurate; I would be willing to bet that people who requested the match back in 2017 (and yes, they did exist, I’m enough of an unc to remember) were mainly doing it for aesthetic reasons. But there is at least a bit more of a theme than that. Mainly, they also both got their powers after being kidnapped and experimented on against their will. It’s not exactly a super deep theme, but people didn’t use to be as obsessed with themes as they are nowadays, and basic connections were typically seen as sufficient as long as the fight would be cool. In that sense, I think the match is fine, though it definitely does come off like a match that was requested mainly for the sake of giving 18 an episode. It definitely doesn’t focus as much on Carol.

Backstory Stuff

Generally speaking the rundown covers Carol’s background accurately. It’s a little bit bland because it kind of just runs through plot points without any particular flavor or embellishment with occasional jokes thrown in, but it’s fine.

“Throughout her adventures, Carol went through several phases of superhero titles. First Ms. Marvel, then Binary, then Warbird, then Ms. Marvel again, until one day, Mar-Vell died.”

I’ve seen some criticism about how unceremonious the mention of Mar-Vell’s death is here, and it does come off as very uninteresting, but I do think it’s worth mentioning that Carol and Mar-Vell don’t actually interact all that much in the early comics, and Carol isn’t even around when Mar-Vell dies, only finding out about it after the fact, and by that point she already had a lot of her own shit to deal with.

More recent comics have retroactively presented them as star-crossed lovers, and emphasized Carol’s care for him a lot more, but originally it was basically just a situationship that lasted a dozen issues or so before the two of them went separate ways. Around the time of Avengers VS X-Men, Mar-Vell got brought back and then quickly died again, and Carol was around for it that time, which kind of reads as a way to make his death more meaningful to her specifically. It’s not until after his second death that she takes up his name.

“To honor her fallen friend, Carol Danvers took up his mantle, becoming the brand new Captain Marvel. Captain Marvel is unbelievably powerful, with superhuman strength and incredible durability.”

This isn’t really an information-focused critique. But the pause between these two sentences is really jarring, and you can definitely tell that those two lines were edited together rather than actually spoken consecutively. In general a lot of Carol’s rundown comes off this way; they’ll jump from one sentence to the next without a real transition, and it kind of comes off like they recorded a bunch of individual lines and then Frankenstein stitched them all together in a somewhat natural order. I don’t know if that’s actually what happened, but the rundown is definitely really oddly paced.

“She learned how to fly planes in the Air Force, but now, she could fly herself! And super fast! Speaking of which, through her time with the Air Force and as a member of the Avengers, she’s received years of quality combat training.”

See, this is what I mean. The first sentence here mentions the Air Force, but then it ends by talking about her being able to fly super fast. Then it says “speaking of which” and jumps back to the Air Force, even though that wasn’t what Boomstick was actually talking about with his line. Then, later on, they go back and talk about how fast she can fly. Once again it feels like the lines are edited together in an unnatural order, and it’s very strange.

“Absorbing anything from electricity to magic can make her even stronger.”

At the time of this episode she consistently could not absorb magic safely.

“While training with the Avengers, the combat simulation measured that she can deliver a force of 92 tons, almost 10 times the destructive power of a Davy Crockett nuclear missile.”

This line is mixing up tons of force with tons of TNT. The two are different units of measure (season 4 era DB ran into this error a lot).

“Now considering the distance between a New York City street and the exosphere, Marvel must have been flying 247 times faster than the speed of sound.”

This is a small gripe, but it’s weird that they keep shorthanding her name as “Marvel”, no one calls her that. It sounds unnatural compared to just calling her Carol.

“She’s stubborn to a fault, even rushing headlong into situations while ignoring advice from wiser, more experienced friends.”

I think it’s weird to present Jessica Drew as wiser or more experienced than Carol. This is a legitimate weakness but it’s kind of overemphasized in a way that feels heavy-handed.

“Like the time she started a Civil War between superheroes, or when she completely ignored her damaging addiction to alcohol.”

Boomstick drinks a beer.

Similarly I think it’s strange to use the alcoholism thing as a big “weakness” example considering that was part of a trauma response to feeling violated repeatedly, and she has an extended arc about overcoming it. She had been sober for years at the time of the episode, and in general I think it’s just in poor taste to approach such a serious depiction of trauma without any delicacy like this. Older DB was a lot edgier than modern but this is the kind of thing that’s pretty yikes looking back.

“Regardless, Captain Marvel is a seasoned hero with a record that most would be envious of. Hell, she’s such a pillar, she’s named after the publishing company herself.”

This is maybe one of the weirdest endings to a rundown lol. It literally just ends out of nowhere.

Characterization

This is a criticism that I’m going to have for both of her episodes, but Carol isn’t really portrayed very accurately in either fight. Normally this wouldn’t necessarily be a problem on its own, since Death Battle episodes will oftentimes blend multiple different characterizations together, or even sometimes provide a unique depiction, but I would say it doesn’t work here because she kind of just sucks. I’ll have stuff to say about the Shazam depiction when we get there, but the 18 episode presents Carol as haughty, overly serious, and a whiny complainer who repeatedly comments “no fair” in the middle of a fight to the death. Even Civil War 2 Carol doesn’t act like this, and Civil War 2 Carol was in and of itself an out-of-character depiction of her.

Like I said, creative liberties can and should be taken in regard to Death Battle characterization. But I can’t help but feel that this fight would have been a lot more fun if Carol acted like she normally does. She has a very dry, quippy sense of humor that often comes out in fights; she’s the type to match Spider-Man’s energy in terms of witty banter, rather than act as the straight man. I would also note that she is canonically trained not to fight fairly and has never been the sort to say “no fair, that’s playing dirty!” to her enemy. Just in general a really unenjoyable depiction that weighs down the fight.

How’s the fight overall?

It’s got some fun stuff going on outside of the dialogue, I think it keeps a good sense of momentum and has some cool choreography for a flying brick fight, like the corkscrew moment. I will say though that Binary looks terrible and it makes it really hard to take the fight seriously after it comes out. I do like the kill, however. Nice and disrespectful, which we don’t get enough of anymore.

“Most apparent of all, Marvel’s durability and strength feats simply pale in comparison to 18’s.”

This is a really peculiar line because it’s contradicted by the analyses. The footage they show here is 18 breaking Vegeta’s arm. Setting aside the fact that Android Saga Vegeta should obviously be much stronger than the episode presents, Wiz calculates the bone in Vegeta’s leg to be capable of supporting 40,000 pounds, or about 20 tons. The number they provided for Carol’s striking strength in her rundown was 93 tons, nearly five times the number provided for 18. This creates an extremely weird contradiction where the verdict says that something is obvious, but it contradicts the numbers presented and then they don’t actually explain the line of reasoning.

If I had to guess, I would speculate that 18 was (accurately) considered to be a planet buster or higher during the episode’s research cycle, and then the episode was reluctant to say so definitively. They say in her rundown that she can “possibly even” destroy planets but don’t elaborate, and her feats slate notes that she broke Trunks’ sword, which killed Freeza, who tanked a planet bust. Reading between the lines, it seems like this line in the verdict about their durability and strength feats may have been written in reference to the idea that 18 is planet level and base Carol is not. However, the episode doesn’t actually say definitively that 18 is planet level, and the clip they show is her breaking Vegeta’s arm, which was previously given a number lower than Carol’s.

This is a very odd discrepancy that’s hard to puzzle out. If I wanted to go full conspiracy mode, I would return to my speculation from the rundowns, where I mentioned thinking that this episode may have been chopped up and reordered substantially during the edit, with certain things being added, or cut, or stitched together in a different order. That would possibly explain why the verdict is referencing back to an “obvious” strength gap that the rundowns did not display. Though it’s also possible that this was just a complete oversight, or that the person writing the episode forgot to carry the two somewhere and thought that 40,000 pounds was more than 93 tons. There are a number of possible explanations. Either way, the verdict is not starting out strong here.

Do they actually pale in comparison?

It kind of depends. Base Carol at the time of the episode was not consistently very strong, typically comparable to Iron Man armors and some weaker forms of the Hulk, but a step below the big heavy hitters. She does have a few good showings against higher tier characters like Wonder Man, and can break Hercules level metal with extreme difficulty, so you might be able to make some type of argument. It’s worth noting that the Tournament of Power hadn’t happened yet at this point, so 18 scaling to Super era feats (el shockwaves) wasn’t super solidified, so you’d mostly be looking at Android Saga feats. Though, she did have a feat of arguably deflecting a Super Saiyan Blue Kamehameha, which was noted in the episode but is somewhat unclear (she may have kicked the Kamehameha directly or she may have just kicked Goku’s hands). At the same time, Marvel heralds weren’t accepted at universe level back in 2017.

With all that said, I think generally speaking I would lean toward 18 AP stomping base Carol, at least at the time. Carol’s direct feats really weren’t that crazy, and you would need to lean into some pretty generous scaling just to get her above Android Saga feats, let alone Blue Goku. So the actual core argument that the episode was making isn’t too bad so far, just really poorly presented and argued.

“But 18 is no stranger to that technique. There’s no doubt she recognized what Carol was doing, and stopped feeding her energy.”

This argument sounds good on paper until you realize that Carol can just suck the energy out of things, and do it from a distance. 18 doesn’t need to actively blast Carol with energy for Carol to absorb from her; she would functionally be an unlimited battery regardless.

“Even if Carol had somehow achieved the full force of Binary, that wouldn’t have guaranteed a win. I mean, the last time we saw Binary in the comics, she was taken down by some alien guns. Guess she’s not as good at absorbing energy as she thought.”

To get the nitpicky thing out of the way first, this instance actually wasn’t Binary’s most recent comic appearance at the time of the episode. That comic was released in 2013, and she went Binary in the first issue of Ultimates volume 2, which came out at the end of 2015. This was over a year before the episode, so it definitely was out and available when the episode was researched.

Setting that aside, this is a really bad argument frankly. The alien ships from this comic were reputed as planet killers and had previously taken down Thor. In the same issue, Binary absorbs 86% of a massive black hole and was a threat to an entire sector of space, both quantifiably much larger than any feat shown in Android Saga Dragon Ball, even if you bring in Toei stuff. That’s to say nothing of Binary’s higher scaling feats, which were enough to stomp even at the time. Removing all context to push an anti-feat (that isn’t even an anti-feat considering the strength of the “alien guns”) is pretty dishonest. If Carol were to successfully undergo a Binary transformation, I don’t think there would be any good argument for 18 winning at that point.

So… who wins?

Well, it depends on your standards I suppose. At the time, 18 would probably have beaten base Carol pretty convincingly, but would lose to Binary just as convincingly. Given she has infinite energy and Carol can just suck it out of her remotely, there’s not really any good way for her to prevent Carol from getting enough energy off of her to go Binary, and Carol can also access the form by tapping into large stellar energy sources. So it basically just comes down to whether you accept “18 kills Carol before she transforms” as a valid win condition.

Based on Death Battle’s ruleset and how the show has historically approached every other matchup and character, I do think that Carol should have won. DB generally assumes that characters start the fight in their strongest form, and have said specifically on many occasions that killing a character before they transform is not considered a valid win condition. Carol is pretty much the only character who has ever been treated differently in this regard, so by that metric this verdict is out of line with their philosophy in every other case.

Also she obviously stomps nowadays, probably even in base, in spite of 18 having gotten much stronger based on the ToP and the Ribrianne fight specifically. Comic power creep too strong.

Overall thoughts?

I’m more sympathetic toward this episode than I used to be. Before reading Carol’s full history I had the common opinion of liking 18 way more, but I also simultaneously just… didn’t get the verdict, at all, I figured that Carol’s scaling was pretty undersold and that not allowing her to use Binary was clear favoritism. But after actually reading her comics I do genuinely understand where the episode was coming from. I still think it was probably wrong, but base Carol at the time was pretty unimpressive and Binary was a bit of a grey area in the ruleset, so I get why they had the opinion they did and come away from the episode thinking that they actually did their homework on her for the most part.

At the same time, I think the script is noticeably extremely disjointed and I don’t really think either rundown is very good. Homework-doing aside, the episode definitely doesn’t come off like it was written by someone who likes Carol very much, especially the fight portion. Overall, a largely mediocre episode that is (mostly) inoffensive, but doesn’t really do a fantastic job of representing either character.

Captain Marvel VS Shazam

Once again I think that Carol is overall the stronger half of this episode; there are way more problems with Shazam. But I do think this one improves on some of the flaws that were present in the 18 episode, while simultaneously hitting upon a number of new pitfalls. And then there are a few aspects where it’s more of the same.

“Many with great power choose to take up the responsibility of being a hero, but for others, it is thrust upon them when they least expect it.”

This is a really generic way to introduce the matchup. I think something that bears emphasizing is that the Captain Marvel debacle is an extremely important facet of comic book history. Billy himself was groundbreaking and hugely influential, and the subsequent feud between both companies over the name is a fascinating story that spans decades. With that in mind, this is one of the most historically significant Marvel VS DC matchups that DB has ever done. I say this because man, watching the episode it sure doesn’t feel like it!

“Inspired by her U.S. Navy dad, Carol joined the Air Force at 18, with the hopes of one day becoming an astronaut”

Well, that’s one way to put it. When they say “inspired by her U.S. navy dad,” what they mean is that Carol wanted to go to college, and her abusive alcoholic father went “GRAHHHHHHHH WOMEN BELONG IN THE KITCHEN” and refused to pay for it, so she joined the Air Force in order to find her own way. I don’t know why this episode is putting up random Joe Danvers propaganda, but saying that Carol was “inspired” by him is kind of gross.

“Until a certain Kree superhero and close friend passed on. Upholding the legacy of her mentor, she took up his heroic name.”

This rundown is a lot smoother than her prior one, if nothing else. It doesn’t jump around as much and says things in a less matter-of-fact way.

“She can fire photon blasts from her body, alter matter at a molecular level, and absorb enormous amounts of energy, which can augment her own power.”

This is kind of misleading. It’s talking about her being able to change costumes by altering the molecules in her clothing. It’s not a power that she can use in any other way, so it’s weird to drop it as part of a list like this without elaborating.

“The energies Carol absorbs maintain their unique properties. When Ultron formed from Iron Man’s armor, the expelled energy was absorbed by Carol, which was later analyzed to learn about the incident.”

This is a good catch. The research for Carol in this episode is largely pretty decent, though the scaling is still a bit amateurish.

“Similar to another long-dormant power of hers: her hyper-awareness.”
“Her déjà vu power! She can automatically predict her opponent’s moves, sort of like Spider-Man’s really OP Spider-Sense.”

The Seventh Sense is consistently super unreliable, and at the time of the episode hadn’t been used in over forty years. It’s nice that they specified “long-dormant” because it demonstrates that they were aware of the latter, but presenting it as a reliable power is a pretty notable lapse.

“Hell, she could wipe out planets on her own if she really wants to, ’cause, she totally already has.”

This scan looks convincing from the outside, but it’s from a retelling of the story where Carol destroys the Brood homeworld as Binary. If you read the original comic for context, she didn’t do that through her own power, so this feat is not valid. Binary has threatened to destroy planets (and more) on other occasions, but hasn’t actually done so.

“While she previously had extreme difficulty with absorbing magical energies, she has greatly improved over time.”

me when I lie

I really have no idea what this is talking about, and magic was still depicted as a major weakness for her at the time of the episode and even in the next couple years afterward. She hasn’t gotten really good feats against magic until the last couple years.

“You really think you can get away with something so petty?”

Once again Carol is characterized as weirdly haughty and a wet blanket. She has a couple lines or moments that are slightly more fun (rolling her eyes before blocking Billy’s punch, “Oh yeah, Shazam” and so on), but the delivery is very grouchy. Basically, she’s the fun police again. I already spoke about this at length before so I won’t linger on it, but I will say that I think the tone of this fight should ideally be way more fun and silly than it is.

Binary

It still looks really bad, though there are some minor improvements. For such a cool design it’s weird that it looks like this.

“No more tricks!!”

I do get what this line is going for. I like the fact that Carol thinks the child Billy is some kind of illusion meant to trick her, to justify why she keeps trying to fight him after seeing that he’s a kid. In fact, I would say that idea in a vacuum is pretty smart, and good writing. But man it just has no sauce here. “No more tricks!!” is a really boring way to convey that idea and makes Carol look stupid more than anything, and the scene is so short that most people I’ve talked to didn’t even realize what the line was intended to convey.

Shazam catches her by the arm and flies upwards as he charges up his magic before tossing her into space using his herculean Strength of Atlas. Binary smashes through three big asteroids before landing hard against a gigantic asteroid.

I’m not sure why this fight didn’t end up at the Rock of Eternity, that seems like a huge missed opportunity. Especially since the ending here takes place in somewhere visually similar, and they get there through a subway tunnel. If anything it feels like that must have been the intention, and then it just didn’t happen for some reason.

As she recovers from the impact, she’s left with little time to get back in the fight, as Shazam soars right into her and lands a punch so hard that the collision course is brightly visible in space, and no sooner, the entire asteroid along with Binary blows up into chunks, instantly killing the latter.

This kill is super lame.

“Also, Carol could not outright remove Shazam’s magical abilities. Even blocking the transforming lightning bolt doesn’t stop Billy from simply calling upon it again.”

This is a bit silly. Billy Batson is obviously not going to be fast enough to do this. If he ever ends up reverting to Billy, he just loses.

“The Wisdom of Solomon could potentially have allowed Shazam to discern Carol’s energy absorption and kept him focused on physical attacks over energy ones she could feed on.”

This episode makes the same mistake as the last one and assumes that Carol can only absorb energy in a pure state, and cannot suck it out of things or people. This is not true; you can’t just prevent her from absorbing your energy by not shooting it at her.

“Speaking of which, Carol had enough power to obliterate a planet, but Shazam can punch a black hole into existence! Who even does that?”

Binary has created and absorbed massive white and black holes on multiple occasions. Presenting this as a level of power beyond her abilities is pretty baffling when Binary is so closely associated with such things.

“Yeah, I don’t think Binary had anything like that up her sleeve.”

The episode shows a panel of Binary threatening to destroy a universe (though doesn’t verbally acknowledge it), so I don’t fully follow the thought process here. In general none of the AP feats listed here are very convincing, despite the fact that Shazam being stronger at the time should have been extremely easy to prove.

Overall?

This episode has a fair amount of additional information, but isn’t altogether that different from the 18 episode in terms of my main gripes. It still doesn’t really convey Carol’s character well and doesn’t do a great job of arguing a fairly understandable verdict. The fight is also just ungodly boring, like basically nothing happens, they exchange blows for a while and then he punches her and she dies. These aren’t the most complex characters ever, but there’s definitely a ton of room for improvement. Which is a shame because as mentioned before, this matchup is a pretty important one as far as comic books are concerned. Like I said though, Billy’s side is much worse than Carol’s, she’s mostly just underwhelming.

Shazam

Captain Marvel VS Shazam

Hi, I’m Door, and I read a fair few of Billy’s comics. And… Billy’s side of this episode is pretty dire in a lot of regards, unfortunately. While he’s not the worst Season 5 through 7 era comic character in terms of analysis, he’s definitely up there, despite what people may tell you.

“Whoa, wait, wait, wait. That’s it? No freaky alien genes, no parents getting gunned down in an alley, he just hopped on a train and shot off to meet some old dude? Where’s the tragedy? Where’s the drama?”

“Boomstick, he’s an orphan.”

It’s pretty weird to say this and focus on this gag when they specifically used the one version of his origin where his parents aren’t dead. While his mom was thought to be dead at the time (later issues of the Johns run would debunk this), his dad had been confirmed to be alive in the first issue of Geoff Johns’ Shazam run, so this whole gag doesn’t really make sense to me, especially considering his Post Crisis origin is tragic. This may seem like a nitpick, and admittedly it kind of is, but it starts a running trend of this analysis just kind of not knowing what it’s talking about regarding the character.

“Aliases: Captain Marvel, Big Red Cheese”

This isn’t an alias, admittedly, but it’s pretty weird that the episode doesn’t bring up that he’s considered the Champion of Magic at all, not even in this slate at the beginning, considering the primary focus seems to be the New 52 version of the character. This may seem like a nitpick, but this is a major thing that’s constantly brought up about Shazam in the New 52. You wouldn’t avoid this unless you didn’t really know the character that well.

“Until they changed that shit ’cause of Marvel Comics.”

This entire section doesn’t do a great job of actually explaining the context around Captain Marvel’s legal history, so I’ll go line by line in establishing what details (most of which are important) are absent here.

“Long story short, Captain Marvel was originally conceived not by DC or Marvel, but by Fawcett Comics as a competitor for Superman. Yeah, DC didn’t like that, so they killed off the cap’n in the courtroom and took the character for themselves.”

This is leaving out pretty crucial context, in that DC specifically sued Fawcett because Captain Marvel got film rights and an adaptation first and was consistently outselling Superman. This is a pretty important part of the story and the fact it’s completely left out is kind of weird, considering this is the entire reason the lawsuit happened at all. DC didn’t just sue because he was competition. Also, DC didn’t acquire the character during this battle, they made Fawcett unable to publish books with the character. They wouldn’t acquire the right to publish Captain Marvel comics until years after the fact, after Marvel’s own Captain Marvel was made. This is a pretty important part of the story, as it’s why the legal trouble between the two exists to begin with.

“Then, Marvel Comics showed up 20 years later and had a similar legal battle with M.F. Enterprises. Motherf***ing Enterprises?! Damn, they beat me to it. Well, good news, because apparently, they forgot how copyright works and tried to make their own Captain Marvel.”

This being brought up in a vacuum is weird, because it ignores what the actual issue was. It wasn’t a copyright issue at all, it was that Marvel had the trademark to publish comics with the name Captain Marvel. Copyright and trademarks are not the same thing, and using them interchangeably is an inaccuracy in this case.

“With that, Captain Marvel had two owners. Marvel owned the name, but DC owned the character, and so began a cold legal war, with both companies silently daring the other to cross the line.”

This is all entirely wrong as well. Marvel didn’t own the name Captain Marvel, they owned the trademark to publish comics called Captain Marvel. If Marvel owned the name, he would’ve been renamed Shazam decades earlier than he was. This supposed ‘cold legal war’ also… didn’t really happen, at all, at least not publicly. This is creating a strange narrative surrounding the legal battle which didn’t really exist, and giving people who are unfamiliar a false impression, which is especially odd considering this tangent isn’t super relevant to this analysis outside of being a cool fun fact, so getting a lot of the details wrong is pretty jarring.

“’Til DC decided, “Eh, screw it. Let’s call him Shazam.””

This is basically true, but it’s mostly cuz Geoff Johns thought everyone called him Shazam anyways, so that might as well be his name. Though this is admittedly a nitpick. Overall, this section feels like to me someone didn’t really look into the actual history that well, due to the summary leaving out a lot of important details and getting some wrong. And it wouldn’t even be that hard to fit these in, you’d just need to change the wording a bit or add a sentence and it’d fix a lot of these pretty basic errors.

“Each of these ancient beings granted their own capabilities to Shazam. The Wisdom of Solomon gave him a perfect memory, and the ability to magically gain any knowledge he needs to know.”

This isn’t really true. This is made especially apparent in the 2019 to 2020 Shazam run, which hadn’t fully come out yet by the time of this episode, but even back in 2002 there was jokes about Solomon not knowing things about ties, and it was never portrayed as entirely infallible. The episode also doesn’t really go into how Billy uses the Wisdom of Solomon to fight and doesn’t bring up any actual instances of how this power has been used, which is fairly noticeable considering this is Billy’s most used ability outside of more basic combative abilities. The description – very broad and vague – is one you’d give if you didn’t really know any specific showings, which is a running theme of this rundown.

“The Strength of Hercules makes him super strong, obviously, and with the Lightning of Zeus, he got awesome electric powers.”

This might just be me, but it’s a bit odd to not bring up any of Billy’s many, many instances of absurd super strength when referencing the Strength of Hercules. It’s his most signature ability, so it’s a bit strange to just completely omit any of his many impressive direct feats when talking about it. In addition to that, none of the impressive direct feats that his Living Lightning has are brought up, which is his other most signature ability. In general, i think this analysis does a pretty poor job at showing off how powerful Captain Marvel actually is.

“Zeus himself once channeled the power to defeat the Shattered God, a being only previously slain by the Big Bang.”

This argument really doesn’t make any sense. The Big Bang previously killed the Shattered God, but that doesn’t mean that the Big Bang is the only thing that can kill him. That’s like saying that if I died to a nuke and then came back and got killed by someone else, that person must be as strong as the nuke that killed me before. If there was a statement that the Big Bang was required to kill the Shattered God, that’d be one thing, but there’s not.

“Shazam also gained accelerated healing, a shortcut to the Rock of Eternity, and the ability to share his powers with anyone he considers family, like his adoptive sister. I suppose he eventually found himself a home after all, huh?”

This analysis has really weird pacing. It’s already bizarre to resolve the character conflict that they bring up at the start of his analysis in the middle of the powers section, but what’s a lot weirder is the fact that Mary is the only character besides the Wizard who actually originates from Captain Marvel comics who is at all brought up in this analysis outside of slates. And she isn’t even namedropped! No Black Adam, no Captain Marvel Jr., no Doctor Sivana, no Mr. Mind, no nothing. This gives the distinct impression that the writer didn’t really know much about Captain Marvel’s actual supporting cast, and as a result the episode fails to convey the actual tone or mythos surrounding Billy as a character.

Less conspicuously, this description about how his power sharing works is incorrect, since he can just share it with anyone. It doesn’t need to be “anyone he considers family,” dunno where they got that from.

“Aw, that’s touching, but back to cool superpowers! With the Courage of Achilles, he became tough enough to survive in space, and even take on Superman himself!”

The feat they show on screen in the background has Billy near the sun, potentially tanking the heat of the sun when turning it on again, by the way. That is a lot more impressive (depending on interpretation, you could argue he got out of the way) than what they bring up, but instead it’s just…tough enough to survive in space? He definently has a lot more interesting resistances to bring up, and in general this is also a failing of the analysis to bring up more examples of his powers. It’s also especially weird because this episode has a resistance it brings up later for the cutaway, but it’s in its own section instead of in the Courage of Achilles section. Which…is what gives him his supernatural resistances. It definitely comes off as if the writer had to use very underbaked research for such an error to occur, which is unfortunate.

“* In recent stories, Shazam lost his original powers and gained new abilities from different gods. While there are some differences, his powers are pretty similar overall.”

This tab is the main reason I’ve been saying the research was probably done by someone with very little familiarity with the character, because it’s clearly wrong if you read the comics in question. For reference, during Darkseid War, when a ton of characters got god amps (God of Knowledge for Batman, for instance), Billy became the God of Gods, and got the powers of the Lightning of Mamaragan, the Boldness of Ate, the Source Manipulation of Zonuz/Yuga Kahn, the Compassion of Anapel, the Fires of H’ronmeer, and the Strength of S’ivaa. Yuga Kahn tried to use his powers to blow a hole in the Source, before he failed.

All well and good, right? I mean, these aren’t very similar, so that part is kind of strange, but it seems reasonable to tab this if his powers were different than normal at the time of the episode. Wrong! In the literal next issue he appears in as God of Gods after all of this is established, those powers got absorbed by a baby from Earth 3 with the powers of Mazahs (the alternate universe version of Shazam), and he goes back to his normal powerset right afterwards. This comic was published in 2016, three years before this episode came out. If you were to write a tab for this, and you actually read those comics, the tab would say something like “he once got stronger powers than normal, but has since lost them.” Even then, it’s not really that relevant to be tabbed, so it’s an odd thing regardless.

But for some reason, the tab positions it as though he still had the powers of the God of Gods in 2019, even though none of his appearances after 2016 show anything of the sort. He doesn’t even look the same…? I’m admittedly confused as to how this happened, considering how irrelevant and niche God of Gods is. Even in terms of ‘non standard forms for Captain Marvel’, Marvel I feel would be more pressing to address.

“Hey, wait a minute… Solomon, Hercules, Atlas… The first letters come together to spell “Shazam”!”

This is obviously a lot less important, but why wasn’t this brought up at the start of the powers section? It’s not like this is some obscure secret, it’s a trait of the character that’s been present since his literal first issue.

“Despite Billy’s often sour attitude thanks to… well… homelessness, he always dreamed of rising up and becoming a hero.”

This is kind of a strange narrative to present because it’s combining traits from dissimilar portrayals of Billy into a weird Frankenstein amalgamation that’s ultimately not representative of either. Basically, most versions of Billy are fundamentally good-natured, and many of them do aspire to be a hero. The exception to this is the New 52 version, who was more cynical and had the sour attitude they mention here. This version wasn’t really concerned with being a hero and was moreso chosen by happenstance… in other words, he never really has an arc where his New 52 attitude contrasts with dreams of being a hero, at least not in the way they’re describing. And other versions of him have the aspirations, but lack the sour attitude. It kind of feels like it’s grasping at straws to come up with an arc to present for him.

“As Shazam, he wound up being so good at hero work, he joined the Justice League. Though he did keep the truth of his powers a secret, as Superman would probably think twice about sending a 15-year-old into an active combat zone.“

Ignoring the fact that this isn’t why he joined the Justice League in either Post Crisis with the Justice League International or New 52 with the Justice League itself, Superman being pointed out as not knowing about him being a kid is really funny when he very explicitly does know, Post-Crisis at least.

Feats Slate

The feats here are pretty random – they mention him being able to harm Obsidian, a character who’s sole interaction with Billy is the fight they name and whose powers aren’t similar to Carol’s at all. Then the Void Hound, a pretty random antagonist (in fairness, probably because he has a pretty impressive feat that was widely circulated back in the day). And him being able to transform faster than a bullet. All of which is pretty whatever compared to the many, many absurd direct feats Billy has. No mention of the fight with Spectre, the only mention of Black Adam in his entire rundown, and the sole mention of the Justice Society, which he was a member of for a decently long time in the Johns run of JSA. Overall, it stands out how few of Captain Marvel’s actual direct showings are brought up, considering he has a lot of really good ones.

“He’s fast enough to transform and dodge a bullet all in one move and even outran the Flash racing around the world at speeds even Superman doubted he could match.”

This feat is from the miniseries Justice, by Alex Ross. Why does this matter? Justice isn’t actually canon to any version of the DC Universe, so the main speed feat used for Billy is an elseworld feat. Billy definitely isn’t consistently faster than Superman. It’s a bit wild considering Billy has a comic where he matches Wally in speed in a race, which is honestly a better scaling chain, so this is a poor choice of feat. This series also explicitly was not used for Aquaman earlier this season, who gets a lot more from it then Billy does.

“Yet, distractions and adversaries aren’t enough to stop this caped crusader. He may be the ultimate power fantasy incarnate, but he’s also exactly what he’d hoped he’d be: a hero.”

Once again, ending an analysis on a fanfic arc that doesn’t exist is kind of crazy. Anyways, overall thoughts on Billy’s analysis? It’s pretty bad.

I think the biggest issue is the clear lack of actual knowledge of the character. None of Billy’s actual story arcs are brought up, no feats from the Fawcett comics are brought up, and for his many impressive direct feats, the only one brought up is the black hole punch. His powers are pretty badly and basically covered without any of his pretty impressive showings besides the Tesseract bomb, which is also weirdly not brought up along with his Courage of Achilles, which is tied to his invulnerability. God of Gods is described incorrectly despite the fact that it literally existed for three issues, not exactly a whole lot to read. The pacing is just kind of bad and doesn’t really coherently flow between character beats and abilities, making it feel very weird to follow and as a result be kind of messy.. It focuses on his connection with the Justice League, a team he had been a member of for 26 issues and of those issues had a major role in like, 5 of them. It doesn’t bring up that he’s the Champion of Magic in the continuity they primarily focused on, which is a major aspect of his reinvention in that continuity that is brought up very consistently, including some of the more minor magic spells he had done up to that point.

And this is especially egregious considering how important of a character Billy Batson is! He’s one of the most defining superheroes of all time and invented several of the key tropes of superheroes as a whole, and his arch nemesis, Doctor Sivana, is THE defining mad scientist. And yet, none of that is brought up here – it’s basically all barebones coverage of his New 52 version, with no other stories brought up. The analysis tells you about as much as you could learn from a poorly made respect thread, and that’s a real shame, because Captain Marvel deserves better than that. It also doesn’t really help that the bad coverage of the legal battle and the weirdly long cutaways make the barebones analysis feel pretty padded, which makes the lack of real substance even more noticable.

And all of that is pretty bad, but for all the factual errors and oddities, the worst crime this analysis commits is being boring. Captain Marvel is inherently a really fun character who has some pretty goofy stories, and this analysis doesn’t deliver on any of that, or any of the wacky and goofy things he’s been able to do over the years. And it’s a big shame, because I feel this episode, along with to an extent the films, has left people with a pretty poor impression of Billy Batson as a character. And unfortunately, the fight’s characterization of him is pretty lacking, too. Speaking of…

“A funky beat fills the sunny day as Billy Batson, in his guise of Shazam, struts down the street in a very good mood. He fires a bolt of Living Lightning at a nearby car, electrifying it. He fires again at a lamppost, shattering the glass. He fires one more time at a conveniently placed ATM machine, which begins shooting out dollar bills by the dozen. The music screeches to a halt as Billy realizes he made a mistake. Desperately, he shakes the machine in panic, begging it to stop.”

This setup kind of suffers from an issue I have with a lot of comic characters in the show, but especially around this time – focusing on references to their film adaptations whether or not it makes sense for them. Billy being this reckless is really out of character for him, even for the New 52 version they focused on. He only did something like this near the start, when he was a lot more selfish compared to most depictions of it. Also, like, he did that shit on purpose in those comics, it wasn’t an accident like it was shown here. Him doing it on accident like he does here is just really odd as a choice. It’s pretty obviously just cuz ‘the movie did it’ without considering whether it works for the comic version, which it really doesn’t.

“Shazam: Oh, I didn’t mean, eh, this isn’t uh… eh, right.

Knowing this isn’t getting anywhere, Shazam sees only one option left: to run for it.

Shazam: See ya!”

This isn’t really in character either, Billy isn’t gonna cause an ATM to go off and then just not explain when someone questions him on it. He’s a kid, he’s not stupid.

“Shazam: Holy Moly!”

Strange to have his catchphrase in the fight without referencing it at all in his analysis.

“Shazam: What’s the matter. Can’t keep up?”

This entire part of the fight never really made any sense to me, especially since they went to a train station. Y’know, where the portal to the Rock of Eternity is? Wouldn’t it have made way more sense for them to go inside the Rock of Eternity? It’d be way more congruent with the fight then this really weird transition to space is. The kill is really lame, too. Explosion kills are in general a lot of the time, but it could’ve been a lot more interesting.

“This battle certainly pushed both Marvel and Shazam to their limits, but while Carol’s experiences with the Phoenix Force and Alephs prove she can hold up to Shazam’s Strength of Atlas.”

I’m not actually sure what the episode means by this? The verdict says later that he’s much more powerful. Do they mean lifting strength? Because they don’t really bring up lifting strength at all, and also Billy had a lot better lifting strength feats than Carol at the time. In general, this verdict is pretty confusing and poorly explained, which is bizarre when Billy obviously stomped back then.

* Also, Carol could not outright remove Shazam’s magical abilities. Even blocking the transforming lightning bolt doesn’t stop Billy from simply calling upon it again.

Okay but like, why would that matter LOL. If he gets turned back into Billy she could just kill him immediately, this point doesn’t really make any sense. It’s also one of the more notable arguments you could make against him, so leaving it to a tab is an odd choice.

“And let’s be honest, having wise old Solomon telling you any information you need at any point is pretty overpowered.”

It’s really weird to bring this up as a point in the conclusion (rightfully so, this was a major advantage for Billy at the time and is pretty notable for how he fights) and then not have it show up at all in the animation. Billy uses it in his fights pretty frequently, and it’s a big point in the verdict, so its absence in the fight is noticeable.

“Okay, but Zeus is drawing power from a bunch of other gods. We can see at least 34 here, and there’s probably more. Even if there were a thousand gods involved, this still means Zeus was responsible for one 1,000th of something comparable to the Big Bang, a universal-scale event.”

This is really arbitrary. How do you even know all the gods are giving an equal amount of effort? This argument with the Shattered God in general is just such an odd angle, I feel like if you wanted to clinch Billy the win in the post analysis the obvious angle would’ve been bringing up the fight with Spectre, since that was by far his most impressive showing at the time.

“Overall thoughts?”

I kind of hate this episode, honestly. I don’t think Billy is the worst example of bad comic representation in this season (he is a very easy second, though), but he is by far the example that bothers me the most. Captain Marvel is one of the most important characters to comic books as a whole, and this analysis does basically nothing for him. No mention of his supporting cast, some very strange feats in lieu of direct showings, and pretty poorly explained abilities. The fight itself is also pretty boring and doesn’t incorporate any of his abilities besides strength, flight, and lightning.

If you went into this episode knowing nothing about Billy Batson, you’d probably come out viewing him as a pretty generic Justice League member, bargain bin Superman more or less. This focus on the Justice League is also, as I mentioned earlier, very misrepresentative of his actual role in the DC Universe, as he was only really a member for a bit of Justice League International in the 80s, where he did nothing, and in the New 52 after Forever Evil where he…did nothing. It’s definitely an analysis angle that feels from a writer who didn’t know much about the character and was working with research that was probably mostly taken from respect threads. And it’s not like the rundown didn’t have time to talk about more, given how much time it spends on lengthy cutaway gags and fluff regarding the legal battle. It comes off like the writer was working with underbaked research and had to do their best to pad the runtime, which is really a shame for a character with as fun and rich a history as Captain Marvel. If you’re doing a rundown for him, the worst thing it could be is not fun, and unfortunately that’s what this analysis. I’d really appreciate if at some point, he could get his runback against He-Man – he really does deserve proper coverage.

Verdict

Strength

When anyone looks at this fight, the first question in their mind is always strength, and at first glance it seems like an easy question to answer. Having moved entire planets and even stars with his sheer physical might, withstood star-busting missile blasts, punched black holes into existence, and prevented multiple Magicland dimensions from merging into each other, Shazam is ridiculously, overwhelmingly powerful. Far more so than you’d see from Captain Marvel in an average comic. Throw in the fact that he can go even with Superman and even help him lift the infinite Book of Limbo, plus showings against the Spectre and Superboy-Prime, and you have a pretty steep hill for the blonde Captain Marvel to climb. There’s a reason why Death Battle ruled overwhelmingly in his favor seven years ago.

That being said, be careful not to underestimate a modern Carol in this regard. Her feats might not be as in-your-face as Billy’s, but she’s far from weak, even in comparison. Being able to lift a reactor containing a fairly large black hole is comparable to moving planets and stars, she can melt through stars in base, and as Binary, she can replicate supernovae comparable to Billy’s large star level showings. His own black hole feat is impressive to be sure, but Binary has created and absorbed even larger black and white holes, and consistently poses a threat to large sectors of space, easily comparable to his solar system level ends. Binary has also nearly wiped out a fledgling universe, with similar baby universes showcasing universal power in other cases, putting her close to even the Magiclands feat via direct showings.

It’s when we get to Superman, the Book of Limbo, Spectre, and Superboy-Prime that she starts to falter a bit. For most of her history, Carol, and even Binary on some level, didn’t showcase too many examples of high-end scaling. Base Carol was consistently on the level of Iron Man armors, and weaker Hulks like Joe Fixit, a notable step below heavy hitters like Thor and Hercules. While she has some high-end showings against Wonder Man and Blastaar, these characters are still a step below the heavy hitters, while Billy is boxing on par with them. Binary can bridge the gap, being comparable to the Sentry-level Collective, but even then, it’s not quite enough to match Billy’s high-ends. At the time of the episode, Carol was comfortably outgunned in the scaling department, even as Binary.

However, in the years since then, she’s gotten much stronger. Strong enough even in base to fight Thor for hours and match his grappling strength, absorbing his lightning until she could K.O. him. While Thor was the All-Father at the time, it’s unclear based on the timeline whether he had the All-Power yet, but even so, base Thor is plenty powerful. He’s moved infinite books similar to the Book of Limbo, and scales to characters like Enchantress, who can threaten the entirety of Yggdrasil. And it’s not like Thor is the only heavy hitter than modern Carol is tussling with. Robbie Reyes, Genis-Vell, and Phyla-Vell are all sitting in a similar weight class as the Justice League heavy hitters that Shazam scales to, with Genis being able to kill Eternity and undo House of M, and Phyla being a contender against the Olympian gods.

Not to mention, Carol also fought the Asgardian deity Sindr, who fought Volstagg and Jane Foster Thor in the same issue that the latter created a storm beyond the Far Shore that was visible from reality, a comparable cosmological feat to many of base Superman’s best showings. It’s also worth noting that while Billy has fought Superboy-Prime, that was pre-Death Metal, so he’s more on the level of threats like the Anti-Monitor at that point, and higher scaling to entities like the Darkest Knight wouldn’t apply yet.

Now, it’s worth noting that Carol still isn’t as strong as Thor, relying on her energy absorption to wear him down over a long period. But given that Billy is going to be relying on magic lightning and brute strength, same as Thor, the fact that she could match Thor for hours via absorption is a big deal. It’s also a big deal that she did this entirely in base, without Binary or the Nega-Bands to amp her power even further. With said Nega-Bands, she was a threat to the Undone, an omniversal being who’s easily comparable to even Shazam’s best scaling.

So while Shazam is maybe still a bit stronger, given his more numerous showings and the fact that he’s one-to-one with Godsphere and Monitor Sphere level beings, Captain Marvel can hold her ground nowadays via scaling to Thor and the Vells. In a competition of strength alone, Shazam may win, but he won’t win quickly or easily.

Speed

Speed is fortunately an easier comparison than strength. While both Captain Marvels can cross the universe, and Billy may have a pretty impressive feat in travelling beyond the Orrery of Worlds, the most impressive showings on either front lie in their scaling to absurdly fast beings. And in that regard, while Shazam can keep up with Superman and Flash to some extent, Base Carol’s speed is on par with Thor and Binary is comparable to the Heralds of Galactus, through both feats and statements. Any immeasurable argument you can make for Billy, you can make for Carol just as easily.

The most you might be able to argue is that Billy should upscale more, given the immeasurable speed upscaling in DC comics for characters like Flash or Wonder Woman. But this doesn’t really check out given that canonical speed rankings explicitly put him below those characters. He still makes the list, of course, but he’s not on par with any of them at their fastest, and thus his speed would “baseline” immeasurable. In comparison, Binary’s speed is one-to-one with the Heralds of Galactus, so there’s no good argument for him outstripping her here. Speed is a tie.

Skill

This category might surprise you, since most people don’t view skill as a hallmark of either character, but these two are actually remarkably underrated in the skill department, and substantially boosted by boons like the Seventh Sense and Wisdom of Solomon. So let’s take a look at who’s the better fighter.

Admittedly, DC Shazam’s skill showings in terms of martial arts prowess are few and far between, with him characterized more as a bruiser than an expert combatant. The most you can point to is the fact that Batman gave Billy Batson some extremely basic self-defense tips to deal with bullies. But in his original Fawcett appearances, the Wisdom of Solomon actually made Captain Marvel a master fighter, skilled in jiu-jitsu and possibly other martial arts as well. Guidebooks even affirm this, referring to him as an expert hand-to-hand combatant, though they do note that he rarely hones these skills due to his strength and invulnerability, which make them unnecessary most of the time.

On top of this, the Wisdom of Solomon grants him exceptional clairvoyant awareness, feeding him advice and knowledge on a regular basis, allowing him to discern enemy weaknesses and strategize effectively against impossible circumstances. Billy himself is deceptively clever and cunning, oftentimes manipulating his opponents or leading them into traps thanks to Solomon’s counsel.

With all that said, Carol’s showings are a few steps beyond him in most regards. For starters, it’s pretty obvious that her experience leading the Avengers and formal training under multiple government agencies like the CIA, Air Force, and so on makes her a more seasoned veteran than Billy. Sure, he fought Sivana hundreds of times during the Fawcett days, and has tons of experience working with the JLA, JSA, and more. But he’s never been a big team leader the way Carol has, and his formal training is mostly nonexistent.

On top of this, Carol is actually a master martial artist pretty consistently, trained in numerous armed and unarmed styles by the military. This has made her skilled enough to match world class fighters like Black Panther without using her powers, and Iron Man has compared her skill to the likes of Mantis, one of the best martial artists in the universe. These are some of the big Marvel martial artists, masters of every known fighting style and incomprehensibly skilled, several orders of magnitude beyond Billy just being a vaguely “normal” expert. Especially considering the fact that he explicitly doesn’t actually use those skills most of the time, relying more on his strength. On top of that, Carol’s completed Avengers training courses faster than Captain America, and Jean Grey has described her as the greatest tactician she’s ever met. (Which as an aside is kind of bullshit, like girl your husband?? Among like a million other tacticians that you know???? But whatever, she said it so it’s canon)

Carol also has quite a few good tactical showings to showcase her practical skill as a fighter. She’s gouged an opponent’s eyes out, regularly throws people into space and lets them suffocate, and is fully willing to employ tactics like throwing people into the sun. When dealing with Iron Man, she crushed his throat to prevent him from calling his suits with verbal commands (incidentally, this is good in-character behavior to have against Billy “say the magic word” Batson). All of which stems from her CIA training, which taught her to fight dirty and to do what it takes to win.

The most you can say for Billy is that he’s conventionally smarter, in the sense that the Wisdom of Solomon gives him the ability to do complex math and science in the Fawcett comics. Carol doesn’t really have showings in this regard, so it’s fair to say Billy has the advantage here. But compared to Carol’s skills, which are actually practical for combat, it’s not really anything that’s going to push the needle.

Now, the Wisdom of Solomon does complicate things. Carol has her precognitive Seventh Sense, and cosmic awareness which grants her extra knowledge, but the Seventh Sense is unreliable, and she doesn’t have too many feats with cosmic awareness. Other characters like Mar-Vell and Genis-Vell have better showings, but their awareness operates on a clearly greater scale than Carol’s, and her own feats aren’t anything super special. Certainly nothing comparable to Billy getting fed knowledge and strategies all the time. In that sense, you could argue that Carol’s advantages in skill, experience, training, and tactics are mitigated by Billy’s information gathering, which would keep him one step ahead of her.

…Is what we would say, were it not for the fact that one of her only showings with cosmic awareness is the ability to listen in on magical telepathic communication. Yet another thing that she’s gotten in the time since the episode. With the ability to listen in on Billy’s telepathic connection with Solomon (which, yes, is explicitly depicted as Solomon whispering in Billy’s head and not something more esoteric), Carol is going to know everything Billy knows, and be aware of every strategy that the Wisdom of Solomon might suggest to him. With that in mind, since she’s already more skilled and tactical than him, she’s going to be able to work around his knowledge a lot more easily.

Versatility

This is probably a relatively obvious category, but definitely an important one to cover. It’s easy to look at the Captain Marvels and assume they’re just flying bricks with some miscellaneous energy and lightning powers, but there’s actually a fair amount to cover when it comes to their abilities.

Let’s start with Billy. It should go without saying that he has superhuman stats, flight, and the ability to blast his foes with lightning. The lightning shouldn’t go unelaborated, since in addition to having enough power to harm and knock out Kryptonians (partially but not fully because of their lack of magic resistance), it has inter-universal range and strikes with sextillions of volts. Billy can charge it into his punches for greater striking power, and its effects are so devastating that it can blast foes to atoms.

We’ve already talked about the Wisdom of Solomon and the tactical advantages that it affords, but less discussed are the Stamina of Atlas and Courage of Achilles. In addition to literally infinite stamina, these powers together make Billy effectively invulnerable to most (though not all) forms of attack. Brute force, mainly, but also sun level heat, absolute zero cold, mind control, memory erasure, transmutation, time manipulation, matter manipulation, and countless other magical effects have absolutely no effect on him thanks to his mystical invulnerability. Even when grotesquely turned inside out by a tesseract bomb, his invulnerability put him back to normal between panels.

The Speed of Hermes also gives him more than just speed and flight. By surpassing the speed of light, he can travel to the Rock of Eternity, and by using the rock as a waystation, he can travel between different universes, time periods, and even to higher dimensions. If he wants, he can BFR his foes to the Rock of Eternity, and even seal them away inside of it, a tactic effective even against a foe as powerful as Raven. While in the Rock of Eternity, provided the Wizard is not present, Billy’s power is increased significantly, and he can use it to scry into other dimensions.

Throughout the years, he’s also showcased some miscellaneous one-off abilities. By using the Wisdom of Solomon to calculate the movement of molecules, he can phase through walls, and he can grow or shrink himself to large and small sizes. When utilizing the proper tomes and grimoires, his innate magic makes him capable of casting more complex spells, but none of these books are available to him normally, and the Wisdom of Solomon explicitly cannot serve as a surrogate for them.

Finally, while not especially helpful in a one-on-one fight, he can share his powers between different people, which has allowed him to empower other members of the Marvel Family consistently throughout the years. Splitting the power naturally weakens it, but allows multiple people to wield the power of Shazam.

While this repertoire is impressive, I think most people won’t be shocked to hear that Carol has him beat in quantity. In fact, most of the powers he’s showcased (though not all of them) are things she has too. Super stats, flight, the ability to blast people with energy, even cosmic awareness and information gathering are all things she is no stranger to.

While her stamina isn’t naturally limitless the way that Shazam’s is, the Nega-Bands passively refuel her at all times, and once she goes Binary, her powers no longer have a quantifiable limit, only depleting if she’s severed from the fabric of the universe somehow. Meaning at her peak, she can similarly keep going indefinitely. Likewise, while her invulnerability doesn’t provide her resistances quite as comprehensive as Billy’s list, she does resist most of the usual suspects. Power nullification, mind control, matter manipulation and atomization, the works.

If she is damaged, Carol has a pretty potent healing factor, allowing her to recover from full body impalement and the flesh being seared from her bones. It’s worth clarifying that while Billy is allegedly immune to physical damage, he’s been knocked out or wounded plenty of times, so he’s not actually completely invulnerable. And when he does get hurt, he hasn’t shown the kind of regeneration that Carol has.

Then we start getting into Carol’s energy manipulation powers, and this is when things really start looking grim for Billy in this category. For starters, she can just straight up absorb pretty much everything imaginable. Radiation, heat, electricity, fucking gravity, the list goes on. Most notably, she can absorb kinetic energy from physical blows, as well as magic from Thor and Wanda (more on this in the next category), putting the brakes on most of Billy’s offensive measures.

She can suck the electrical signals out of a person’s brain. She can sense energy sources. She can make blades and weapons out of energy. She can phase through things, she can manifest Binary avatars to fight alongside her, she can read minds by absorbing from them. With the Nega-Bands, she can swap to and from the Negative Zone and other dimensions outside of time and space, plus a number of other hypothetical powers shown by the Vells. Then there’s Binary, who can manipulate gravity, create black and white holes, generate matter and anti-matter. She can also turn into intangible energy, an equivalent to his own phasing, and has come up multiple times compared to his one. The list goes on.

Ultimately, while Billy has a decent repertoire of powers when you actually list them out, Carol’s bag is just way deeper. Frankly, this wasn’t really the case when the episode came out. A lot of this stuff is from the 2019 and 2023 Captain Marvel runs, as well as miscellaneous Avengers appearances and Infinity Comics sprinkled in between. Carol’s been pushed a lot in recent years as a much bigger heavy-hitter than she used to be, MCU synergy and all that. With the powers she has at her disposal now, Captain Marvel has the more versatile skill set.

Staying Power

What this fight ultimately comes down to, more than stats or skill or a longer list of abilities, is which side can take the other down faster. You could reasonably call this category “Resistances” if you wanted to, but we think Staying Power is the most encompassing description. Which side is gonna be able to stonewall the other side’s abilities, and which side’s defenses won’t be able to hold out?

As noted above, Billy technically has more resistances with his magical invulnerability. Coupled with the infinite Stamina of Atlas, outlasting him in a slugfest isn’t really going to work out. Given that he can withstand heat vision from Kryptonians that don’t hold back like Superboy-Prime, the temperature of Carol’s star-melting photon blasts aren’t going to be a huge deal. Sure, her blasts can overload Blastaar, who withstood the heat of the Big Bang, but so has Prime, and Kryptonian heat vision has even generated Big Bangs in the past before, so it’s not an insurmountable temperature.

On top of that, while Carol’s healing factor is certainly better, Billy’s invulnerability can hypothetically undo a lot of the physical damage she might do to him. His showing against the tesseract bomb is pretty crazy, restoring him from even being turned inside out. Punching and blasting probably won’t kill him easily, if at all.

Unfortunately, this is where the “but” comes in. Billy’s powers don’t afford him many win conditions either. Carol resists the Living Lightning’s atomization, and similar to Billy’s invulnerability, the Nega-Bands grant powerful regeneration, having reconstructed her body on a DNA level, and Genis’ at the molecular level. In that regard, even if he did successfully blast her to atoms, the Bands could likely reconstruct her, the same way they did Genis. Likewise, while Shazam can make black holes, Binary can absorb them, and would have no trouble getting a power boost off of that rather than sustain any appreciable damage.

What about magic, though? She’s always struggled with that, so maybe he could overwhelm her with enough concentrated blasts with magic lightning, especially if the Wisdom of Solomon clues him in. Unfortunately, Carol’s feats with this have improved drastically in recent years. In addition to being able to absorb and manipulate Wanda’s Chaos Magic – incredibly dangerous and finnicky magic, mind you – she could also absorb Thor’s magic lightning for hours. Said lightning is resistant to forms of absorption that aren’t specifically designed to work on magic, but Carol absorbed it anyway. This is the closest approximation to Billy’s lightning that you could ask for, especially given Thor’s lightning could revert Billy to and from Captain Marvel in a recent crossover comic (and vice versa with Thor and Blake), and Carol had no trouble with it. It’s worth mentioning as well that the Nega-Bands have their own energy absorption which has no magic weakness to begin with, so even if Carol herself couldn’t absorb his magic for some reason, the Bands make that weakness a complete non-issue.

The Nega-Bands can also counter if he tries to BFR her to the Rock of Eternity. The Rock is a waystation between dimensions, on a similar cosmological scope to the Negative Zone, which exists on a multiversal scale. The Nega-Bands have allowed transportation to and from dimensions other than the Negative Zone, such as the Microverse, as well as transcendent locations like the White Hot Room in certain continuities, and they aren’t even reliant on the swap effect to do so. Mar-Vell has transported himself back into the universe through the Nega-Bands with willpower alone, not requiring a swap, and Genis-Vell has used them to make portals normally. This includes to other time periods, so even if Billy tries sending her back in time (a tactic he hasn’t tried before), the Bands would counter that too.

Alright, well what about sealing? Billy trapped Raven in the Rock of Eternity, so could Carol break out of that? Well, yeah. She’s broken out of being sealed within an infinite tesseract, as well as broken out from being sealed inside the Undone’s body. While it may sound tempting to say that the sealing would still work because it worked on Raven, who’s very powerful, it’s worth clarifying that Raven actually has an extremely poor record against sealing specifically, at most undoing sealing that has been done on other people, but never herself. So any “layered sealing” arguments wouldn’t really work here.

From there, it really becomes a question of stamina and brute force. None of Billy’s hax options to end the fight quickly would work, so his best bet is reliant on his strength and his tireless Stamina of Atlas to win the long game. Unfortunately, this would also be pretty difficult. Carol restores her stamina by absorbing energy, and the Nega-Bands passively recharge the wearer constantly by siphoning energy from stars. Binary has unlimited energy, and unlike back in 2019, Carol has gotten strong enough that she can just go Binary at will, no absorption needed. Trying to outlast her stamina through all of that would, at best, take an incredibly long time, assuming it’s not outright impossible.

Wearing her down by brute force is another matter. Billy is at least a bit stronger than she is on a base level, and she does feel the impact of the hits she takes, so it’s not like she’s just going to endure all of his hits forever. If they spend a long time slugging it out, eventually she’s going to start feeling the damage a lot more than he is. Especially given her recent showing in Armageddon, where pushing her absorption enough can take a toll on her overall power level. She has the showings to hold out against Shazam for a while, but given enough time he may be able to overtax her enough to replicate the Armageddon nuke.

But that’s only if the fight actually gets that far. Carol has a lot of ways to, frankly, end the fight immediately that Billy doesn’t really have an answer to. She can absorb the electrical signals out of his brain, which she says would kill anyone other than a Hulk. He has no resistance or counters to this; in fact, Black Adam was once completely incapacitated by a device that did something similar. Binary and the Nega-Bands can both generate anti-matter, which can eradicate matter into energy upon contact. Shazam has no resistance or counters to this. Binary can create black holes. Why does that matter when Shazam can create black holes too, you ask? Because the one time he created a black hole, it spaghettified his body and reverted him back into Billy.

Which brings us to the biggest problem for Billy in this fight, that being… well, him. Billy Batson himself, rather than Captain Marvel, is and always has been his biggest liability. The most obvious way that this has come into play is that he’s reverted if struck by his own lightning, which Carol could theoretically force by absorbing and redirecting his blasts back at him. But it’s actually not nearly as limited as that. He can be reverted by any lightning that hits him, as long as it’s comparable in power to his own. Thor has done it. Doctor Sivana has done it with his machines. All sorts of people have done it, dozens of times throughout his history. And while he can say Shazam again, and turn himself back into Captain Marvel, normal human Billy Batson is not nearly fast enough to pull this off before getting mulched, if we assume Carol is going for the kill.

Now, there are some counters to this. Carol wouldn’t know that she needs to do this; it’s something she would need to figure out by accident, or through her cosmic awareness clueing her in to what Solomon is telling Billy. More importantly, there is actually one single showing of Billy resisting this type of reversion, by willing himself not to transform. He says in this instance that he’s not sure whether it’s because he controls the transformation or because of the unusual reality he was in at the time and its different rules, and he has a million showings of being unable to resist something similar, but for the sake of argument let’s say yes, Billy is entirely immune to being reverted via lightning.

The problem is that it’s not even just lightning. Billy and other users of the Living Lightning can be reverted to mortal form via… having the power of the Living Lightning absorbed directly out of their body. Energy absorption. Can turn him back into Billy immediately.

And this is where this matchup kind of just becomes unfair. Billy has no resistance to having his energy absorbed or his power drained or stolen or negated. In fact, not only does he have no resistance to it, but it has consistently, constantly worked on him countless times throughout his history, to the point where it’s practically a well-established weakness. If you don’t believe us, here are some of the big hits:

  • Sivana uses a machine to absorb all the world’s lightning, leaving none to transform Billy into Captain Marvel and rendering him helpless.
  • Mary is affected by earrings created by Doctor Sivana that act like a lightning rod, draining her magic lightning and the power of the goddesses along with it, leaving her powerless.
  • Alec Tronn’s machine absorbs all the electrons from the air, preventing Billy’s lightning from forming and transforming him.
  • Billy fights Mr. Power, who can absorb the kinetic energy from his punches, and their ability works just fine as advertised; he does not overcome this directly.
  • Striking names off the list of gods in the Rock of Eternity removes those powers from Captain Marvel.
  • Sivana empowers himself with the good qualities of Captain Marvel’s patron gods, leaving Billy without most of his powers.
  • Billy could not change into Captain Marvel when the Wizard’s power (along with the rest of the universe) was being drained.
  • His powers were disrupted by the Godwave emanations from the Source during Genesis.
  • He was cut off from the Wizard’s power while inside the Shadowlands.
  • When Billy was possessed by the demon Gluttony and temporarily gained energy absorption of his own, he used it against Black Adam to drain his power and revert him to mortal form instantly.
  • Spectre was able to absorb Billy’s power, severely debilitating him throughout their fight, requiring empowerment from the Enchantress to prevent Billy from outright dying.
  • His own black hole sucks him up and reverts him to Billy.
  • The Wizard returns after dying, steals Billy’s powers, and leaves.
  • Teth-Adam stole the Living Lightning from his nephew Aman, gaining the full might of Black Adam for himself.
  • Black Adam was defeated in a fight with Wonder Woman because of an Nth Metal mace absorbing his power.
  • An Amazo was able to absorb and steal some of Billy’s power.
  • Black Alice was able to steal Black Adam’s power to use temporarily; while he was able to call it back to him, he was not immune to having it stolen in the first place.
  • During the Lazarus Planet event, the Wizard notably stole Billy’s power, draining him and leaving him emaciated.
  • When Billy was empowered by an entirely new set of gods, making him vastly more powerful than normal and capable of manipulating the Source itself, the God of Gods… he lost his powers because they were stolen by an alternate universe version of himself who had power absorption.

There are a few erroneous out of context scans you might have seen floating around for energy absorption resistance:

  • At one point he fights a guy possessed by Mister Mind, who was absorbing power from the soul of the universe, and this ability didn’t work on him. But this was specifically because he wasn’t connected to the soul of the universe to begin with, being from a different universe, so the absorption just didn’t pertain to him. It wasn’t because he was intrinsically immune.
  • New 52 Doctor Sivana could not safely channel the Living Lightning, but this is because his body wasn’t suited to channel magic at all.
  • The Wizard once said he can’t steal Billy’s power, but this was because (in this particular story) he was restricted from taking back power that he’s already given away. He has successfully absorbed Billy’s power in other instances.
  • Yuga Khan could not steal Billy’s power via the Staff of the Living Lightning, but this was because the Staff of the Living Lightning didn’t control that power to begin with, not because Billy is immune to power stealing.

This might seem like a lame weakness for Billy to have, but it bears emphasizing that this is actually very narratively congruent in a lot of ways. He constantly splits his power and bestows it to other people, weakening himself in the process. The basic function of his powers is that he absorbs the lightning and is empowered by it. If the power of the Living Lightning couldn’t be absorbed and channeled by people who don’t naturally own it, there would be no Captain Marvel to begin with. Likewise, it makes perfect sense that his powers, which are contingent on a magic power stored within his body, would be diminished or removed by power draining.

His best counter would be Black Adam’s showing of absorbing some of his stolen power back from Black Alice. After all, Carol has encountered this exact thing before, with the villain Nada being able to recall her energy back to herself constantly, preventing Carol from keeping her depowered. But if Carol were to completely drain Billy of the lightning, reverting him to a child, this leaves a window where he’s totally depowered and vulnerable to getting oneshot before he can recall the power. Even if Carol only partially drained the lightning for whatever reason, Billy would essentially have to reabsorb his power every single time Carol absorbs any of it, which is an active counter that would be difficult to keep up and would distract him from actually pressing the offensive himself. It wouldn’t be viable in the long term to just keep re-absorbing his own energy constantly when Carol’s energy absorption is so potent and fast acting, wouldn’t prevent her from absorbing the kinetic energy of his blows freely (an ability which has explicitly worked on him before), and banks on an application of the lightning he himself has never demonstrated.

With that established, there’s really not much of a case to be made against Carol being able to drain him. She can sense energy within things, so she would be able to tell that he has magic power within him that she can pull from. She can draw energy out of people and objects, even without contact and from a distance, and her showings with Thor and Wanda prove that magic isn’t enough to preclude her nowadays. At best for Billy, she would drain his power gradually over time until she can K.O. him with it, the same way she did Thor. At worst, she sucks it out of him and reverts him to Billy right away.

And once he’s reverted, she has plenty of options to prevent him from re-transforming, like speedblitzing him, crushing his throat to stop him from speaking (the same way she did Tony Stark), or even absorbing the sound of him saying the magic word, which is something that has explicitly prevented him from transforming in the past. Even if you assume that Carol wouldn’t drain him of his power or that it wouldn’t work for whatever reason, she has multiple other abilities that could kill him immediately that he has no proven resistance against. If Carol used none of her powers and turned the fight into a war of attrition, Shazam might win eventually with extreme difficulty, but given that he has no way to prevent her from ending the fight immediately, Captain Marvel has the better staying power.

Conclusion

“There’s this thing about making mistakes… you learn a lot from them. So I figure I’m some kind of genius at this point given the ‘whole shelf of mistakes’ thing. And you know the most important thing I’ve learned? Always get up. If you always get up, then it’s never over.”

Advantages:

  • Comparable in strength and speed via recent showings
  • Can absorb all of Billy’s offensive options
  • Can forcibly revert Captain Marvel to Billy in several ways
  • Multiple additional win conditions that Billy doesn’t resist (neuroelectricity absorption, anti-matter, black holes)
  • Much more skilled, well-trained, and tactical fighter
  • Superior healing factor, even without the Nega-Bands
  • Nega-Bands fully counter BFR and sealing
  • Can constantly recharge via absorption and Nega-Bands
  • Binary has infinite energy
  • Dude her Kelly Thompson run is fuckin’ awesome

Disadvantages:

  • Billy’s high-end strength showings are more numerous and direct
  • Seventh Sense and cosmic awareness are less encompassing than the Wisdom of Solomon
  • Shazam can resist some of her offenses thanks to the Courage of Achilles
  • Lesser showings in terms of conventional intelligence compared to Golden Age Captain Marvel
  • Zachary Levi may be 😬, but Brie Larson is a woman, and that’s worse
  • Chip Zdarsky (derogatory)

“All I have to offer is a friendly smile, a gentle hand, and a few words of comfort. In my mind that’s not nearly enough, but it has made her very happy. It has given her a reason to smile, a moment of relief from her fear and pain.”

Advantages:

  • Greater number of high-end strength showings
  • Comparable in speed
  • Wisdom of Solomon provides tactical assistance
  • Stamina of Atlas allows him to fight indefinitely
  • Courage of Achilles grants him many resistances
  • Greater conventional intelligence with Fawcett showings
  • Dude his Golden Age comics are fuckin’ awesome
  • Had the first superhero movie

Disadvantages:

  • Does not significantly outstrip Carol’s stats
  • Lacks offensive options that Carol cannot absorb
  • Inferior healing factor
  • Much less skilled, well-trained, or tactical
  • Vulnerable to having his power drained
  • Vulnerable to neuroelectricity absorption
  • No shown resistance to anti-matter
  • Carol can escape his sealing and BFR
  • God there are so many jokes we could put here bruh

I think if there’s one key takeaway here, it’s that Carol has simply gotten much, much stronger since 2019 (recent nerf aside). Not just in her scaling, to where her base form is tangling with Thor and the stronger Vells, but also in pretty much every other way imaginable. Her energy absorption has gained a massive number of new applications (kinetic energy, gravity, constructs, energy avatars, just to name a few) and her magic weakness has been mitigated by extremely impressive showings as of late. This is to say nothing of the Nega-Bands, which grant her a massive absorption boost, counters to BFR and sealing, and a huge number of other hypothetical abilities. She also gained the power to integrate with telepathic communication, countering the Wisdom of Solomon, and can enter Binary form without needing to absorb from external sources.

All this is to say that the fight probably was legitimately a pretty low-diff win for Billy when the episode happened. His weakness to energy absorption was made irrelevant by the fact that she couldn’t even absorb magic to begin with, she was much weaker and even slower than him by every metric, had very limited access to Binary, and most of her counters didn’t exist yet. It just so happens that Carol had a pretty huge, character-defining comic run immediately after the episode and has only continued getting stronger ever since. Meanwhile, Billy has had a few runs where he got a direct low multiversal feat, and then even more bad showings against power absorption than he already had. He also got sealing, which would be helpful… if she didn’t get multiple sealing resistance feats and a hard counter on top of that.

So like tl;dr: Billy is maybe still a bit stronger at a base level (debatable but let’s be nice here), but Carol has multiple good showings against comparable characters and has fought them for hours and won via absorption. She’s comparable in speed, much more skilled, and has an answer for the Wisdom of Solomon. She resists or counters all his hax (atomization, BFR, sealing) and has regen + passive stamina recharge to keep her in the fight indefinitely against his brute force. At which point she wins via at least four different insta-win conditions that he has no answer for: power absorption, brain shutdown, anti-matter, and black holes.

When it comes to the war for the Captain Marvel name, the new kid on the block beats unc today which is funny because Billy is a kid and Carol is a grown ass woman.  That was one MARVELOUS fight huehuehue.

Bonus: What if we excluded
the Nega-Bands?

Considering the Nega-Bands were destroyed, this is a decent question to ask, so we figure we’ll address it before anyone wonders. In addition to being extremely powerful and varied, the Nega-Bands kind of just remove most of Carol’s notable weaknesses, cutting off pretty much any avenue for Billy to get the upper hand. That being said, they don’t fundamentally change the comparison, they just make it a lot more lopsided.

For example:

  • Without the Nega-Bands, Carol still has her showings against Thor, the Heralds, and Sindr, keeping her at a competitive level in stats, though not without difficulty. With them, she definitively compares to characters at least as strong as Billy, like Genis-Vell.
  • Without the Nega-Bands, Carol recently has good feats of absorbing magic from Thor and Wanda, proving that she can absorb Billy’s lightning without her magic weakness impeding her. With the Nega-Bands, her absorption has no magic weakness at all.
  • Without the Nega-Bands, Carol is still capable of escaping sealing and BFR, having broken out of an infinite tesseract space after some time. With them, she can cancel sealing instantaneously and break out of Undone’s sealing without needing time.
  • Without the Nega-Bands, Carol has resisted atomization on several occasions, allowing her to power through Billy’s lightning, meaning he’d need to wear her down over time to have a hope of killing her. With the Nega-Bands, even if he were to atomize her, they could just repair her anyway.
  • Without the Nega-Bands, Carol can recharge her energy reserves via absorption, but she can still run low if she’s not careful with expenditure VS intake. With the Nega-Bands, her energy is passively recharged constantly.
  • Without the Nega-Bands, Carol can potentially be overloaded eventually, if her absorption is taxed continuously beyond what she can handle. This could sharply reduce her overall power level, but is not an easy task. The Nega-Bands, on the other hand, were not overloaded even when channeling enough power to destroy Eternity, making their threshold so high that it may as well not exist.

Essentially, she would still win, she would just need to work harder for it. The Nega-Bands just turn it into a total GG.

Bonus 2: God of Gods

Now, you might also be thinking “Hey, you’re giving her the Nega-Bands even though they were destroyed but aren’t including God of Gods because he lost it? Isn’t that a double standard?” Well, first of all, not exactly. Billy only had the God of Gods powers for a couple issues compared to an entire run, and more importantly, those powers are a replacement for his normal power set, rather than something he can have in addition. So if we were to use God of Gods, we would need to use it in place of his typical abilities. But it does beg the question: can the God of Gods overcome the Nega-Bands?

For starters, it’s likely that God of Gods Shazam is at least somewhat stronger than he normally is. The power he commanded at that point was established to be greater than normal, and allowed him to overcome Yuga Khan, who believed that if he stole those powers from Billy, he could “punch a hole through the Source.” In context, that statement isn’t as crazy as it might sound though, since it was referring to Khan creating a portal to escape the Source and conquer Earth. Additionally, the point of the story was that Yuga Khan was delusional and didn’t understand how the God of Gods powers worked, so it’s debatable whether he could have actually done it. Regardless, though, even at minimum, the power boost would be beneficial to Billy in terms of taxing Carol’s absorption.

On the other hand, the powers granted to the God of Gods are different than his normal ones, meaning that outside of raw power, he actually loses a lot of his boons. Sure, he still has lightning, and gains some nifty fire powers and “Source Manipulation” (whatever that means, he didn’t actually do anything with it). But he loses the Wisdom of Solomon, Speed of Mercury, and most importantly the Courage of Achilles. Meaning he forfeits his skill, speed, and all of his many resistances in exchange for a power boost. And when faced with power absorption, the God of Gods fared just as poorly as Billy usually does, losing his new abilities immediately.

Essentially, given the Nega-Bands don’t have a magic weakness and a higher absorption threshold (eliminating the possibility of Carol getting depowered a la Armageddon), her other advantages like skill and such would be heightened by the loss of Billy’s other powers, and Billy would lose his invulnerability, Carol with the Nega-Bands could probably still take this. The most you can say is that God of Gods could probably overload Carol if she didn’t have the Nega-Bands, but including God of Gods while excluding the Nega-Bands would be pretty hard to justify.

Bonus 3: What if we used
nerfed Carol?

bro she can’t even fly LOL

Before We Go…

We still have one more Marvel VS DC blog to go, with Mr. Fantastic VS Mr. Terrific dropping next Sunday. However, regarding the next time after that… we would like to gauge interest. See what people would prefer between two noteworthy options. Check out the form below to vote!

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc4B1MpUMGTOf7aviwlNod2pjE5KOODJ6gnfVLtf1VBdT5cqg/viewform?usp=header

7 responses to “Death Battle Predictions: Captain Marvel VS Shazam (2026)”

  1. Scarecrow640 Avatar

    Honestly, genuinely really happy Carol won, I know people didn’t pay it much attention but I really liked The Marvels when I went to watch it, and it got me genuinely invested in her as a character.

    As for the poll, from what I can find, Zamasu just seems like a vastly better opponent for Hades than Beerus is, it has stronger, more thematic connections that actually go into Hades story, and I’d generally be more interested in seeing what Zamasu brings to the table debate wise more than Beerus (no offense, but his only notable ability is Hakai, which has been covered plenty before, while Zamasu’s immortality and universe merged form are stuff I really want to see tackled).

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  2. werewolfspookyc505040095 Avatar
    werewolfspookyc505040095

    Wow I did not see that coming.

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    1. Timewarp Avatar
      Timewarp

      Same. I know Carol had gotten stronger over the years and was given more powers but I didn’t think she could hold a candle to Shazam. I honestly thought they’d give it to Billy.

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  3. brylun Avatar
    brylun

    Oh, good show (2x)

    Fun to know Carol is a fan of the ‘Invincible’ approach of chuking a vaguely poweful figure into the sun lol, as her bestie Jessica says lol.

    Y’all have been pretty good with these rematch retrospectives. I respect that.

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  4. Timewarp Avatar
    Timewarp

    I feel so vidicated with your comments on Carol VS 18 cos finally someone proved she was absolutely robbed of that win.

    And yeah with Carol it feels like Death Battle just straight up hates her, like I know she didn’t lose twice because they don’t like her don’t get me wrong I agree she lost to Shazam at the time and she lost to 18 cos of the way they researched episodes back then but yeah I’d like to see her get a good 3rd episode just so we can get a better analyst for her that doesn’t depict Carol as this raging feminist.

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  5. Anon Avatar
    Anon

    That was a cool blog and awesome under dog victory but I’m a bit curious about something, I’m guessing it doesn’t change the verdict but with statements that Billy has access to every magic from the rock itself, is it possible he could hax scale to the wizard Shazam or to be more specific, is Wizard Shazam actually versatile/haxy in the first place?

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    1. G1 Team Avatar

      It’s possible that it would give him some additional abilities, but Billy in-character wouldn’t really default to using them, given that he hasn’t ever done so over the course of a fairly expansive history. The Wizard also showcases fewer abilities than you might expect, given that a lot of the time he stays on the sidelines (though he has some decent stuff, like force fields, time manipulation, and telepathy off the top of my head).

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