“No man is above the law and no man is below it: nor do we ask any man’s permission when we ask him to obey it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

Miles Edgeworth, Ace Attorney’s prodigy prosecutor.

Saul Goodman, Breaking Bad’s criminal defense attorney.

The law, as one man might say, is the end product of many years of history, through trials and errors we establish what is wrong and what is right, what is just and unjust. And yet our sense of judgement can eventually lead us to the wrong path. You either continue this path corrupted on the inside, or realize your wrongdoings and fix them on the outside. In today’s trial, will the ace prosecutor be able to reach out to the truth and get the guilty verdict, or will the best legal mind known to men slip his defendant away? 

Before We Start…

Should be pretty natural, with Miles we’ll be covering all of the Ace Attorney games where he was heavily relevant, this notably includes his own spin off series – Ace Attorney Investigations. In addition, we’ll also be looking into the various Ace Attorney mangas and stage plays (for the latter we highly recommend turning on English Subtitles) that Edgeworth is relevant in.

With Saul, our main coverage will be all of Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul seasons. 

Though the main question here may be what is our exact ruleset for this match? After all, intelligence based matchups is quite an unexplored genre of the matches with more complicated set-ups for a fight compared to your good ol fist fighting. 

The main scenario will be “Can Miles Edgeworth prove Saul’s client is guilty?”. Saul’s client is guilty but Saul has proved guilty parties in the past as innocent so this should be fair game. The defendant and judge for the sake of the debate are just neutral figures that can play to the strengths of both Edgeworth and Saul (likewise the defendant can afford Saul and his services but nothing beyond). Both have access to their common support though to which extent will be clarified within the blog but generally just people they would commonly have access to in a typical trial or investigations for this scenario (AKA no Phoenix Wright or Walter White). To summarize, Edgeworth needs to prove the defendant is guilty while Saul needs to prove his client is innocent…in most scenarios (will clarify later).

Oh and, at last an obvious but important note nevertheless:

⚠️⚠️THIS BLOG WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS FOR THE⚠️⚠️
MAIN ACE ATTORNEY TRILOGY, INVESTIGATIONS
DUOLOGY, AND ALL SEASONS OF BREAKING BAD AND
BETTER CALL SAUL!

With that said, court is in session!

Background

Miles Edgeworth

“I have no real interest in the perceived worth of other people. As for my own worth, that is something only I can determine for myself.“

Gregory Edgeworth was a prodigy of a defense attorney, and his son knew it. The young boy Miles Edgeworth grew up idolizing his father to a great degree and he wanted to follow in his footsteps; so much so that when he was in elementary school, he successfully defended his classmate Phoenix Wright after he was accused of stealing his lunch money. The two, alongside Larry Butz (the actual thief, unbeknownst to everyone except for Miles), soon after became inseparable friends. At least, until one fateful day.

On December 8th, 2001, Gregory proved that his rival prosecutor Manfred von Karma had forged evidence in court and got him penalized. While leaving the premises, the Edgeworths and the court bailiff Yanni Yogi became trapped in the elevator following an earthquake. In an attempt to defend his father when Yogi attacked in a panic, Miles threw a pistol at the bailiff, falling unconscious while doing so as he heard a gunshot and horrible scream that would haunt him for many years. When he came to, Miles was in a hospital, and his father was dead with a shot to his heart.

The case was very complicated and police even had to call a spirit medium, Misty Fey, to find the killer. She channeled Gregory, who accused Yogi of the murder, who in turn was claimed to be temporarily insane by the defense attorney, resulting in a Not Guilty verdict. The resulting trial for the now named DL-6 Incident left Miles with a lasting hatred for defense attorneys, and taking advantage of this, Manfred von Karma adopted the orphaned boy and trained him as his successor alongside his daughter Franziska. Many turbulent trials followed his… eventful debut, and Miles’ main goal to get a Guilty verdict by any means necessary allowed rumors to spread about his reportedly illegal methods, earning himself the moniker of a “Demon Attorney” who would do anything to win, like his adoptive father.

A few years later, Miles Edgeworth took the prosecutor’s position in a case, standing against none other than Phoenix Wright, Miles’ old friend who was inspired by him to become a defense attorney in elementary school. Both men were relentless, and Miles was not opposed to using his usual underhanded methods against his former friend even after being accused of the crime, but the mounting pressure from the defense caused the true murderer to confess, and Miles suffered his first loss in court. Right after, he had a second trial also involving Phoenix Wright on the defense, it was at this trial Miles got a crisis of conscience. He forced the final witness, Dee Vasquez, to testify about what she had done after finding the body, which allowed Wright to win this case once more. Because of Wright and his ideals, Miles felt uncertainty and was at the corner of reevaluating his ideals. 

Soon afterwards, Miles found himself as the prime suspect in the murder of the defense attorney who had defended Yogi all those years ago and reluctantly took Wright as his attorney against von Karma, who had been chosen as the prosecutor in the case. At first, von Karma presented a serious challenge that lived up to his name, however through effort and sheer luck (caused by Larry Butz’s arrival) did Wright solve the case by discovering Yogi as the killer. And yet this feeling of unease, this feeling of guilt, haunted Miles throughout this trial more than before, and upon Yogi’s confession Miles understood that perhaps he himself was at fault for his father’s death. 

Fully confident in his guilt, Miles was ready to confess his crimes on the same day and despite every witness and evidence pointing against him, Phoenix Wright continued to believe in his innocence, and was convinced in it upon taking a proper examination at the incident. Wright with his sole determination not only defended Miles in the DL-6 incident, but also found the true culprit at fault for the death of Gregory Edgeworth; Manfred von Karma himself, who actually planned the entire series of recent events to take revenge against the family of the one person who destroyed his perfect record.

Phoenix Wright’s persistence led Miles to reconsider his own values. He had not only lost to him three times, but also defended him from not one, but two murder cases. Distressed from what had happened in such a short amount of time, Miles left the country under the guise of a note that said only one sentence – “Prosecutor Miles Edgeworth chooses death”. Despite some taking the message literally, Miles meant it as the death of the man he used to be. Now having studied abroad to reevaluate his choices, the Demon Attorney was no more, which he proved not only to himself, but also to other people in need, whether it be his new partner Kay Faraday, his father’s former assistant Eddie Fender or even the entire Committee for Prosecutorial Excellence.

In the place of von Karma’s successor was a prosecutor who realized the win record that he had kept up for so long was meaningless in front of what mattered the most; the truth. This new outlook on his job ultimately had a positive effect on Miles, and many years later, he earned himself the position of the Chief Prosecutor, saving the defenseless, engaging any contradictions the law had to offer and becoming a priceless ally for his friend and rival in court Phoenix Wright.

Saul Goodman

“Hi. I’m Saul Goodman. Did you know you have rights? The Constitution says you do, and so do I. I believe that, until proven guilty, every man, woman and child in this country is innocent. And that’s why I fight for you, Albuquerque!”

The infamous Saul Goodman is known as many things. A con artist, a criminal defense lawyer, an independent practitioner at elder law, and perhaps most notably, the man who elevated the drug lord Heisenberg to legendary status. Before any of that though, he grew up as Jimmy McGill in his father’s small convenience store. His father, Charles McGill, was an honest and trusting man, perhaps to a fault. 

Jimmy witnessed as his father was routinely scammed by grifters that frequented the shop. He tried to warn his father about these kinds of people, but Charles could never get himself to doubt anyone. Eventually, Jimmy concluded that his father was beyond help, and began to follow the example of the scammers. He started pocketing a portion of the money whenever he manned the cash register. Both of these factors would put the convenience store out of business, but just like Jimmy anticipated, his father never even considered the thought that his own son could steal from him. If Jimmy learned anything from his childhood, it was how much there was to gain from manipulation.

Soon afterwards, Jimmy began a full time career as a con artist. Having gotten really good at reading people, he began to build a real reputation in the world of cheats under the nickname “Slippin’ Jimmy”. Eventually, his actions caught up to him and he would end up arrested. In order to get out of this situation, Jimmy is forced to rely on his brother Chuck McGill. Chuck was also raised at that convenience store and had worked out that Jimmy was stealing from the shop. He pursued a career as a lawyer to make sure what happened to his father would not happen to anyone else, and so he never forgave Jimmy for his part in the incident. While he would agree to defend his brother, Chuck demanded an end to the swindling lifestyle Jimmy currently led. Jimmy agreed, and began to try to rebuild himself. While he did enjoy his time as Slippin’ Jimmy, he always had respect for his brother and what he had achieved as a lawyer. Jimmy saw an opportunity to make Chuck actually proud of him, and took a job in the mailroom at Chuck’s law firm, HHM, while secretly studying to take the bar exam.

Eventually he studied fully and passed the bar, however despite all the effort, he still was not accepted for HHM, leading Jimmy to work on his own instead, eventually Chuck himself also got into a medical condition where being near anything electronic would cause him some psychological damage. All this time, Jimmy thought that it was Howard Hamlin who couldn’t accept Jimmy, to the point that despite all Jimmy’s efforts to the point of even giving the company a really big case, he still wasn’t accepted for the job. All until Chuck himself revealed that he never had faith in him as a lawyer. That he’ll “never change” and always be the “Slippin’ Jimmy” who is incapable of living a fair life. This response on Chuck’s end was a devastating blow, the one that probably caused Jimmy to slowly but surely corrupt himself, going less in the direction of fair life that he’s been working for, and more into the world of crime. 

Plenty of things happened throughout; a rivalry with Chuck which eventually caused him to commit suicide, to Jimmy’s marriage to Kim Wexler, whom he had known since his HHM days. Seeing Kim doing all the effort for the two as a lawyer, Jimmy got himself a new name; “Saul Goodman”, a pun of the phrase “It’s all good man!”. Soon, Jimmy’s conman habits rubbed off onto Kim, and together they decided to commit…very complicated pranks on their former coworker Howard Hamlin and HHM, to the point that they made him look like an uncontrollable drug addict with paranoia in the eyes of his own friends and colleagues. This obviously angered Howard and he wanted to talk things out with Saul and Kim, but he unfortunately came at the wrong time, as when he was about to leave, he was shot in the head by Lalo Salamanca, a cartel member that Saul previously defended and an enemy of Jimmy’s associate Gus Fring. That night, Lalo terrified Jimmy and Kim so badly that even after things were quickly resolved, both were heavily traumatised, to the point that Kim questioned the way she and Jimmy had been living together. Despite their love for each other, she decided that they couldn’t endanger anyone else with their actions, resulting in their divorce.   

Following his divorce from Kim, Jimmy wallowed in his regret, and it led to the lawyer losing himself in his Saul Goodman persona, delving deeper into the criminal world with every step he took. This led to him meeting with Walter White, an up-and-coming drug kingpin known as Heisenberg to the general public and becoming his legal counsel and money launderer. Saul was a huge help throughout the Heisenberg era, always coming in clutch whenever Walter and his partner Jesse Pinkman were in need of help. Despite everything he did to help, Walter kept pressuring Saul each opportunity he had, not giving him any opportunity to move on. But soon enough, Heisenberg’s identity was exposed and every relationship the kingpin gained throughout his empire were revealed as well, including Saul Goodman. Obviously Saul went running and along with Walter, got himself a new name again, this time to hide himself from authorities – Gene Takavic – just your average working man who became a manager of Cinnabon in a shopping mall. Gene was hiding himself very well, but constantly reminiscing about his conman days. He relapsed and continued to perform crimes, except this time on a much smaller scale and much slower pace. But one mistake led to him and his newly acquired associates being caught immediately.

At that point, Saul lost basically any chance of remaining free, but he still had a backup plan in his head. Instead of taking accountability for all his crimes, he threw all the blame on Heisenberg for threatening him throughout the years, allowing his sentence to go from 200 years to 7 with a prison of his choice. Despite this, something didn’t feel right, and as soon as the day of trial came and he saw Kim come in from the other side of the country to witness the trial, he realised that he couldn’t live as Saul Goodman any longer. He confessed all of the crimes he committed, to the point of even bragging that Heisenberg wouldn’t have even been close to the big name criminal that he was without him. Despite getting himself into prison for the rest of his life, his crimes no longer weighed down on his conscience, and Saul Goodman died where Jimmy McGill was reborn. Chuck was wrong; he could change. Because through all his mistakes and lies, Jimmy regained his soul; the thing that mattered the most at the end of it all.

Experience & Skill

Miles Edgeworth

Even in his introduction, Miles was considered to be a gifted prodigy, prosecutor or defender. As a child, Miles took after his father and successfully defended Phoenix Wright from a classroom trial while he was accused of stealing his lunch money. After his father was murdered, Miles went on to be adopted and trained by Manfred von Karma. The vicious prosecutor taught Miles in his ways, teaching the young boy to be unrelenting in the pursuit of victory in court, and by the age of 20, he was already a part of the prosecutor’s office.

His high intellect was tried and tested even before his first session in court as he was able to figure out the dual murder of Byrne Faraday and Mack Rell in a short notice. Not long after that, he went toe to toe with the then-amateur Mia Fey, his tactics learned from von Karma on full display as he repeatedly insulted her and even withheld evidence that would’ve been crucial for the defense, the trial only ending due to the defendant’s abrupt suicide. Once he entered his prosecutor career properly, Miles became undefeated for years until Phoenix Wright broke down his streak.

Following his run-in with Wright in court, Miles decided to go international and reevaluate his profession, at which point he became a more honorable prosecutor who sought after the truth instead of a guilty verdict. And he managed to prove it not only in the mainline Ace Attorney games where he assisted Wright’s investigations, but especially in his own spin off series as well. He was able to defeat several international crime organizations like a smuggling ring in the first game, a black market that sold off evidence in the second game, and even various charismatic manipulators and criminals with notable disguise skills. These individuals were so skilled, they weren’t caught by authorities for tens of years until Miles himself was involved: Calisto Yew, later known as Shih-na, Shelly de Killer (who openly acknowledged Miles’ deduction skills despite not being put in prison), and Quercus Alba and Excelcius Winner, both of whom were basically emperors of their criminal organizations and high political figures who used the law to their advantage whenever they could.

And that is without mentioning that a lot of the events in Investigations 1 and 2 were happening in practically a few days (if not hours) between each other, or him being pressured by Agent Lang or Committee for Prosecutorial Excellency with threats of removing his badge. On top of all of that, he solved 3 mysterious events that no one could figure out for decades with hardly any evidence at his disposal. His intellectual skills will be presented more later, but it is not hard to make a picture that Miles is smart enough to solve what seems to be unsolvable and beat those who in the world of law seem to be unbeatable.

Saul Goodman

Described as “the best legal mind [he] ever knew” by Howard Hamlin, Jimmy McGill has proven himself to be an incredibly intelligent lawyer. Despite being in the shadow of his older brother, Jimmy managed to educate himself enough to pass the BAR exam, becoming a great lawyer. Even before his criminal days, when he was living as Jimmy McGill, he was one of the smartest lawyers around, being able to get settlements from different organizations like Sandpiper Crossing and Mesa Verde. He was hired as an associate for Davis & Main, one of the biggest law firms in Albuquerque, and when he wanted to quit he devised a plan to be fired without cause in order to keep his bonus.

He’s always been great at defending his clients to the best of his ability by any means necessary. In the 5 year gap between BCS and BB, the amount of commercials he put out made him a celebrity in the city of Albuquerque, especially in the criminal world. In those 5 years, Saul won countless cases, getting countless criminals off the hook. Even years later when he was out of the lawyering game living as Gene Takovic, he still maintained his knowledge about the law, managing to argue a 200 year sentence down into 7 by coming up with the right story. 

But of course, we’re talking about Saul Goodman here, and he’s best known for his scams and tricks. Ever since he was a child, as noted by his brother, he would steal and lie his way through life. He became a professional con man alongside Marco Pasternak, running petty scams for cash like selling fake Rolex watches. When he figured out Walter White’s true identity, Saul took his business empire to the next level, setting the White family up with money laundering, finding locations they could cook, and getting them off the hook several times. His empire could not have been built without him, which Saul openly confessed to at the end of his 12 year long career. All of this makes Saul Goodman one of the best legal minds in the world, as well as one of the dirtiest criminals out there too.

Equipment

Miles Edgeworth

Prosecutor’s Badge

Edgeworth can present to no diff the case. 

Jokes aside, it’s a symbol of and proof of Edgeworth’s profession of being prosecutor. He usually prefers to keep it in his pocket rather than show it off.

GoYou Suitcase

This suitcase was a gift to Miles from Rhoda Teneiro, who designed this suitcase in the first place, as well as managed to win in a competition. While its choice of design is…noticeably questionable, price is way too high even as a souvenir from aircompany (Twelve Hundred damn dollars), and on top of all that the place where it is being sold is probably the worst choice ever (in a literal plane where you already are with a suitcase), it still does it’s job as intended. Miles even managed to use it to sneak in a large amount of money while being involved in a kidnapping case.

Knife

Found in Edgeworth’s toolbox, this knife was supposedly used for murder nearby Edgeworth’s own car, we never see Miles use this knife himself, however it is still a notable piece of equipment that could be used in case for self-defense.

Car

Miles’ prosecutor career has been financially rewarding for him, which is pretty noticeable given he managed to afford himself a car without any trouble. It’s never specified what brand of car Miles is driving in, but Ace Attorney fans as intended for the nature of the games, were able to deduce one theory on what it might be – that being Mazda RX8. This is still a theory, but it does make sense at least to some degree. With that being said, thanks to his car Miles manages to get to his cases relatively quickly and on time… despite the one time it was used to hide a dead body.

Card

Like any self-respecting lawyer, Miles carries a business card with himself for a matter of introduction.

Room 1202

This is Miles Edgeworth’s own office room, within the building where other prosecutors work. It is a bit of an ordinary room, and by itself the only notable thing about it is that its walls are completely soundproof, but it has most of everything that matters for Edgeworth. A very expensive tea set, chess board, a Prosecutor Trophy which is given to Edgeworth as a top prosecutor from the office, a Steel Samurai figure (wonder how that one got here…), but most importantly, on the right side there is a book shelf which contains files from all various incidents that throughout the decades, all of which have been put in an alphabetic order. On the left side, there is a frame inside of which is Miles Edgeworth’s first suit that he wore at the beginning of his prosecutor career, and slightly more behind it… 

Secret Safe

Behind that frame, there is a secret safe with code locking it. Usually Miles uses it to hide his most crucial evidence for cases, unavailable from anyone else to get it.

Saul Goodman

Pistol

Despite his unwillingness to truly get his hands dirty, Saul does keep one in his drawer that he attempted to use on Jesse. Probably good for self-defense or other such uses, of course.

1998 Suzuki Esteem 

The first car that Jimmy McGill used, this 1998 Suzuki Esteem is a beat-up car that Saul eventually pushed off a small cliff. Probably simpler ways to dispose of a car, but it’s effective.

1997 Cadillac DeVille 

As Saul Goodman, Saul drove a 1997 Cadillac DeVille with a personalized license plate, naturally shouting out his reputation as a lawyer.

Chi Machine

It massages him. Great for relaxation.

Best Quality Vacuum
Repair Card

Saul owns a card with the phone number to Ed Galbraith’s vacuum repair service, making it significantly easier for Saul to acquire a dust filter, or to request the aid of Ed’s phenomenal disappearing services.

“Saul Goodman & Associates”

Jimmy’s main base of operations so to speak, a place where most of his call cards are being placed in case he needs to make a call (no pun intended), as well as it is where he speaks with the majority of his clients for whatever case he needs to prepare. This place is where most of his important employees are, always nearby in case Saul prepares whatever job that needs to be done. 

But it is also a bit of a risky place in on itself, as behind these paper walls on which constitution is written, there is lots of money that Saul has laundered throughout his career; in case everything would break bad (pun intended), Saul would immediately use the money behind those walls to escape as far as possible.

Associates

Miles Edgeworth

Dick Gumshoe

“Don’t just go saying ‘pal’ like that, that’s my endearing character trait!”

Hey pals, you already know who it is! It’s your friendly detective Dick Gumshoe. He has a longstanding history with Edgeworth, and is loyal to him to a fault. While he may not be the brightest badge in the pocket, he’s a dedicated worker who is still a handy partner for the prosecutor to have. And while acting clumsy most of the time, he’s still a trained police officer measuring in at 6’0”, being able to take down Furio Tigre so Phoenix could escape and win the Recipe for Turnabout case. 

Seven Secret Weapons: His most notable tools are his Seven Secret Weapons, an assortment of random objects to help discover hidden things at crime scenes, you can see below, a good chunk of them:

Missile

Not the one with the ghost powers, but still a unique Shiba Inu breed police dog, as well as Gumshoe’s first secret weapon. The dog is very much trained in tracking scents…but also has proven to really focus on tracking food or sweets specifically, as shown with him jumping on Larry Butz, tracking down Samurai Dogs and…actually tracking down a secret escape tunnel via sweet scent…and later tracking it down on case’s culprit as well. Well, I guess tracking down edibles can be of use.  

Metal Detector

Gumshoe’s second secret weapon is Metal Detector. Thanks to it, he can track down metallic objects in various hidden areas. The potency of the metal detector is pretty strong as not only it can sense metallic objects from the outside, but also metallic objects on the inside such as a bullet in a man or a knife in an alligator’s mouth.

Fishing Pole

Gumshoe’s third secret weapon is a fishing pole. It is pretty good for fishing things out in the water, and Gumshoe was even able to get it in an alligator’s mouth…but he hasn’t found it a practical usage in his investigations yet.

Li’l Vee

Gumshoe’s fourth secret weapon is Li’l Vee, a video analysis machine. In Ace Attorney’s nature while characters still live in an era with flip phones and VHS cassettes it is simultaneously future with some high levels of technology, in this case, while zooming in Li’l Vee is capable of increasing the quality of videos AND photos which helps to track down details that normally are impossible to see by the naked eye (such as a bear silhouette and a human body  in previous examples, that were impossible to notice due to darkness, or even an eye of the balloon that normally is impossible to see in a photo). In case with videos, it is also possible to look at everything around frame by frame as if you are using a video editor.

Bug Sweeper 

While this is not his secret weapon officially, it is still a tool that Gumshoe used throughout the investigation. And therefore can be brought up in other ones, mainly this device is used to look for hidden listening devices (aka bugs), and despite the fact that it was made by Gumshoe in elementary school, it actually works well as with its help Phoenix and Pearl were able to find bug with own small video camera inside of a giant stuffed bear. 

Its weakness is that you can’t set its sensitivity and therefore it’ll react to anything that gives off electromagnetic waves. Keep in mind that Gumshoe used this one because at that point in time, he couldn’t get police’s bug sweeper, and under other circumstances, it is possible for him to get it (therefore avoiding a sensitivity issue).

Magnet

At that point Gumshoe lost the count of his secret weapons, nor do we actually see them all in action, but either sixth or seventh of his secret weapons is a magnet which he bought from a hardware store, which can be used to pull out iron sand, and by virtue of it being a magnet other metallic objects. This makes it combine fairly well with the aforementioned Metal Detector.

Gun

Not his secret weapon, but still part of his arsenal as every cop must have one. He doesn’t like using it, but he indeed got one. It’s a real genuine pistol, one he’s not afraid to show to small children. And also less afraid to use it once someone actually threatens his friends.

Kay Faraday

“You can call me Kay, kay?”

Even in the depths of night, when no other bird dares to take flight, one alone soars to shine the light of righteousness on the world’s blight! And that one is she! For she is the Great Thief, Yatagarasu! The second generation of the legendary phantom thief, Kay Faraday is Edgeworth’s self proclaimed assistant, who have both gotten each other out of serious binds. Despite her title as a thief, Kay is always after stealing the truth above all else with an array of skills and tools.

• Lock Picking: She’s good at picking locks, comes with the territory of being a thief.

Little Thief

This is the main tool Yatagarasu is known for. While it looks like an average flip phone on the outside, it is actually one more sci-fi device from the Ace Attorney’s world, capable of recreating any location as well as events happening within the location as a fully fledged crime scene, all made out of various holograms at first, its usage was to prepare for stealing, but later on it helped Miles severely to fight crimes. Though it can’t recreate a crime scene out of nothing, what is important is to give it all the information for it to be as precise as possible. 

Beyond the recreation of locations, and events, it is possible to update details and switch between time periods of events within the same location. Overall while analyzing the events in question, with given information, Miles can point out various contradictions that come with previous lines of logic, giving him a leeway for a new opening and think of a new, more accurate possibility of how the crime was done. Miles himself actually also is knowledgeable in using Little Thief, as shown in Turnabout Teleportation.

Police Department

As a high ranking prosecutor, Edgeworth works closely with the police department. When he is on the case, any of the officers are at his disposal for more thorough investigations. Many of Edgeworth’s most prominent allies tend to hail from the ranks of this department, and as a prosecutor, he does have access to their aid and resources to reach the bottom of whatever case he is currently assigned to tackle. Allies like Gumshoe and Skye both work here directly as part of the homicide division, and any other detectives or officers could potentially lend their services to Edgeworth’s goals if needed as well.

Additionally, the police department comes with some useful resources that can help Edgeworth in his investigations and the hunt for the truth in any case.

Records Room

A useful part of the department that contains in-depth records the police might have on a variety of cases. Attorneys such as Phoenix Wright or Miles Edgeworth are able to use this room to research and access data on a case or evidence to help them reach new conclusions, possibly giving them new information that they did not previously have. While the Records Room has been host to some incidents of tampering with the law (or Karma with a taser, anyway), its location within the department makes it generally safe from outside interference and a generally reliable source of possibly lesser-known intel.

Evidence Room

Another helpful locale within the police department is its evidence room, which is used for storing evidence in cases. The lockers within can be utilized to store anything that might be needed to solve a case, and are locked to recognize only specific individuals involved with a case through fingerprint technology. This helps keep any needed evidence from being spoiled by outside parties, ensuring the legitimacy and use of any evidence Edgeworth might need to use from the department.

Ema Skye / Forensic Department

“Let’s be scientific about this, please!”

Investigation not scientific enough for your liking? Not to worry, Ema Skye is here to remedy that alongside the rest of the forensics department. Normally Miles can ask other people at the forensic department for help, however Ema has shown to be the most loyal, as not only she’s a fan of Miles Edgeworth, she managed to come in to help even when someone in the Committee for Prosecutorial Excellence pulled the strings for Forensics not to come. Through various scientific tools, Ema and company can investigate crime scenes more closely to discover brand new information. Just don’t piss her off, you’ll probably get a Snackoo thrown at you.

Luminol

This spray’s chemicals react to areas where blood was spilled, glowing a bright blue under the view of Ema’s tinted glasses. This can uncover new things about the injuries dealt at a crime or scene, uncovering bloodstains that would otherwise be hidden (be sure to spray every suspicious nook and cranny).

Fingerprint Powder

Rather simple tool, by spreading the powder on an object and blowing away the excess dust, fingerprints can be grabbed and scanned to see who used what.

Footprint Analysis Kit

A tool in her stash that isn’t police issue, this kit can pick up footprints through the use of plaster and ink.

X-Ray Analyzer

This device can show hidden objects inside of layers. This can range from pictures hidden under paintings to letters inside of sealed envelopes.

Unlabeled Spray

Ema also has a spray bottle that turns blue when sprayed on an area where poison was applied, or specifically Atroquinine.

Saul Goodman

Mike Ermantraut

“No more half measures.” 

Mike Ehrmantraut, enforcer of Gustavo Fring, personal investigator to Saul Goodman, finger painter, and the man who should’ve killed Walter White. Mike Ehrmantraut is a highly-trained hitman and investigator, spending most of his early life as a cop down in Philadelphia before moving after the death of his son. Mike, undeniably, has a lot of his own content to cover separately from Saul. so, to prevent this from trailing off into a Mike Ehrmantraut blog, we’re only going to list only his most important traits.

Hired Assassin: Living as a cop for so many years gets you familiar with guns. Mike owns a slew of pistols, sniper rifles, and even an AK-47. He’s shown to be skilled with these guns, like breaking into a facility to save Duane Chow, or being confident that he could kill Tuco from the other side of the street unnoticed. Mike has proven himself to be a great tactician, sneaking around areas and using different objects to fool his targets. He’s used balloons to break power lines, toys to act as door knockers, and shoes to pretend he’s running. 

Personal Investigator: His other use is as a personal investigator or being thrown into Saul’s schemes. He pretended to be a private investigator during the Lalo Salamanca case, found Walter White, and covered up scenes for Saul.

Francesca Liddy

Saul’s forces are not all offensive, as shown by his one and only secretary Francesca Liddy. She manages the clients that arrive at Saul’s office, working as the receptionist. She can be used for other purposes like posing as a plaintiff’s family member to obtain conference information and impersonating a police officer to trick Hank Schrader into going off the trail of Walt and Jesse, lying about his wife being hospitalized. It is worth noting Francesca has a lot of unease regarding Saul’s operations, despite her cold demeanor.

Patrick Kuby &
Huell Babineaux

“Mexico. All’s I’m saying.”

“Guy hit 10 guys in jail within a 2-minute window. All’s I’m saying.”

Patrick Kuby and Huell Babineaux are two of Saul’s enforcers. Huell comes first chronologically, as he was a part of Saul’s scheme against his brother, planting a fully charged battery into Chuck to prove his hypersensitivity was a fake ruse. Since then, Huell has been Saul’s bodyguard, smashing a police officer over the head with his bag, or acting as a bouncer for him. Huell’s main skill is his pickpocketing, being able to grab Howard Hamlin’s keys, and famously lift the ricin poison from Jesse, described as having “fingers like hotdogs.” It makes sense that he was convicted of this crime before meeting Saul. 

Kuby eventually joins Huell as a sort of “double act,” acting as the mouth of the operation. He pretended to be an environmental auditor to make Bogan sell his car wash, forced Ted Beneke to sign a check, and took part in the train robbery with Walter White. 

Saul Goodman Productions

Do you think Saul makes all of his adverts alone? Nope! He has a dedicated film crew of three students that make personalized adverts for him.  With camera operator Marshall Dixon, boom operator Phil, and makeup artist Sherry, they were initially a way for Jimmy to earn money legally and later became a part of his schemes, such as his slip and fall and tricking prosecutor Susanne Ericsen by impersonating a Louisiana pastor.

Ed Galbraith

While not your typical ally of Saul, Ed Galbraith is important to mention. Ed runs an illegal disappearance service to any client who pays enough. By calling his number and asking for a dust filter for a Hoover Max Extract Pressure Pro Model 60, Ed can make you disappear. He changes your name, your identity, everything about you. Although this can take him some time, especially with people like Saul Goodman, Jesse Pinkman, and Walter White, however, disappearing Saul only took him two days. To Ed’s credit, he managed to make all of these disappear for extended periods of time, with Saul being offered a second disappearance act when he was found out as Gene. 

Clarence

Similarly to Huell, Clarence works as one of Saul’s bodyguards. Most notably, he’s helped capture and intimidate some young men who robbed our scumbag lawyer.

Ira

Hired by Saul to steal figurines, Ira is a surprisingly useful thief that Saul keeps in his back pocket. He also runs the pest control company Vamonos Pest, initially a front for burglary and exchanging information that later became a part of Walter White’s ever-expanding empire.

Jimmy In-N’-Out

Jimmy-In-N’-Out is a criminal and a man on the inside who will go to prison for the right price. Saul uses him to pose as Heisenberg. In that scenario the reason he was used is to mislead DEA out of the actual Heisenberg while freeing Badger from the case that normally is practically unfavorable for him. However the price for that service is also pretty high for a client – 80,000 $ to be precise. 

Tactics & Skills

Miles Edgeworth

Pressing

An Ace Attorney classic, Miles can press any statement made in proper testimony and question it. This can help specify information, gain new pieces of testimony, or catch people in a lie. It doesn’t hurt to press everything (most of the time).

Presenting

“I object! That was…objectionable!”

If Edgeworth finds something contradicting the evidence, he can raise an Objection. Complete with the ever iconic sound effect, a proper objection can bring truth to any mysteries ahead of him. He’s used this on various occasions to read between the lines of even the most seemingly airtight assertion and returned the flow of an argument in his favor even when he’s seemingly on the back foot.

Logic

Every playable lawyer in this series has their gimmick. Phoenix Wright can see the secrets locked in your soul, Apollo Justice can see the physical ticks sprouted from your lies, and Athena Cykes can hear the crying emotions in your heart. Miles Edgeworth…uses his brain. Jokes aside, Logic is a useful tool. It can be used to fit two noteworthy details of the crime scene, fitting them together like puzzle pieces to bring forth new information about the case. Notably Miles is able to memorize all these pieces of information to put them together later on and come up with a logical connection between them. 

Deduction

If a nook or cranny is looking extra suspicious, Miles can deduce how that can contradict the information on hand. Through this, misinformation breaks down and they become one step closer to the truth

Witness Prepping

Given Miles’ position as a Prosecutor, Miles is able to prepare his witnesses for a trial. Back in his early career, he would pressured them into not revealing anything that would help make him get a guilty verdict (for instance with Gatewater Hotel Bellboy in Turnabout Sisters). Currently he does not and would rather have the witness give them the whole truth on their side of the story for any particular case.

Logic Chess

(Credit to Yves for the image)

If his opponent is unwilling to tell him any sort of important information, he can duel with them one on one in a game of “Logic Chess”. This is a psychological duel between Miles and his foe, where he reads who he’s facing and strategizes a form of attack to wear their walls down so he can come to the truth of what they’re hiding.

This tactic helped out Miles in a variety of moments, for instance one of the first times we see it being used was against President of Zheng Fa, who claimed extraterritorial rights on the plane inside of which was committed a murder. By going in Logic Chess against the President, Miles was able to practically use his own words against him, and disprove extraterritoriality, practically allowing himself to investigate the plane that he couldn’t beforehand. 

Photographic Memory

Another skill Ace Attorney lawyers are known for is having very precise memory. Given that besides being intelligent enough for all these murder mysteries, they can also just recall, direct statements from people word for word. For instance, Miles’ aforementioned logic already consists of pieces of information he himself memorizes as soon as he sees something out of the pocket, but on top of that, he also was able to recall several statements at once and recollect them as pieces in his logic all while Lablanc was falling, or recalling other case statements/events upon witnessing a chocolate bar.

Bluffing

If it so happens that Miles can’t exactly prove his logic, deduction, etc. via the physical evidence, he can also just…bluff. Inspired by a certain defense attorney who is very well known to bluff his way to get criminals to make a certain mistake, Miles can also just bluff. At bare minimum his bluffing worked to buy himself more time and quickly add more onto his logic, so he would be able to deduce his way in figuring out the truth. 

In The Captive Turnabout, Miles used it just for that, so he would be able to quickly figure out where the murder weapon was actually laid while bluffing that he already knew where it was. Until he quickly figured out that it was inside of Alligator’s mouth the entire time.

Worth noting that this is Miles’ last resort, as he usually would like to prove his claims via evidence. And very often his opponents force him to do that. Even according to his own thoughts, Miles felt as if he was in adrenaline.

Turnabout

Now this one is a bit complicated to explain, but hear us out. In a pursuit for truth there may be moments when Miles stumbles across something he can’t prove with direct evidence, or at bare minimum he is forced to do so by his opponent. At that moment if nothing else helps, Miles changes his way of thinking so to speak, looking at the situation outside of the box, and figuring out the other way to solve the issue or prove his logic. That way he stays two steps ahead of his opponent and comes up with a conclusion in a way his foe couldn’t expect or predict, causing a “turnabout” in the case. 

Saul Goodman

Bribery

As a criminal lawyer, you wouldn’t be surprised that Saul uses his money to bribe people. From small things like giving people sweet treats and toys to get his hearings rescheduled to paying a man to fall off of a sign. Interestingly enough, Saul doesn’t take bribes from people, as seen when he denies Jesse’s money. 

Negotiation

This is practically Saul’s final weapon if he is unable to turn everything around in his favor. In other words, lightening the damage he can get from his failures as far as possible. It is not necessarily to be just with cases, one of the first instances we see Saul doing chronologically is negotiating with Tuco Salamanca after his scam plan has failed. By negotiating with Tuco instead of getting his 2 temporary partners killed, they only got away with 1 broken leg each. A feat like that impressed even those who know Tuco very closely like Lalo Salamanca or another well-known criminal mastermind – Gus Fring. And it impressed them for a reason, Tuco is a highly unstable person who is really easy to anger. To such a degree that you can be on his side, say one stupid line and end up dead because of it.

Saul continued to use negotiation throughout various cases in his series, in his first Breaking Bad appearance, despite not being able to prove Badger Not Guilty (as there was simply way too much evidence against him), Saul instead managed to negotiate with DEA to let Badger free under condition that he will give out whoever he works for. Which in turn after finding out about Walter and Jesse and their business, he gave away one of his people instead, who actually got into prisons on purpose. Though officially speaking, his most impressive negotiation feat was when after several years he got caught and was accounted for all of his crimes, his original sentence was 200 years, but by negotiating and creating his own narrative on the fly, he managed to turn these 200 years only into 7 years with a prison of his choosing.

Blackmail

If all else fails, you hit your opponent with something they don’t want to be revealed. Saul has used blackmail in order to get his way several times throughout the show. Like when he revealed that Mesa Verde’s logo was plagiarized in order to stop an eviction, he got both the home owner and original photographer a settlement through pulling that trick. He also managed to join Heisenberg’s operation through him learning Walter’s real identity, essentially forcing his way in at the risk of it being revealed. 

It should be noted that Saul wouldn’t go too far with blackmail on his own. Sure, he was complicit in Brock’s poisoning, as he had Huell pickpocket Jesse’s ricin in order to trick Jesse into thinking that Gus poisoned Brock. But he never would’ve done it on his own if Walter wasn’t his client. 

Feats

Miles Edgeworth

Overall

• Argued with Quercus Alba for four hours straight
• Solved the IS-7 Incident, which remained largely a mystery for 18 years
• Manage to reunite 2 countries together by solving KG-8 Incident
• Was a major player in ending the “dark age of the law”
• (Somewhat) Assisted in taking down the Khura’inese dictatorship
• Able to withstand being saddled with… unnecessary feelings.
• Did in fact defeat not just the clown, but the entire circus

Intelligence

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• Didn’t lose a case for four years in a row
• In a matter of seconds (while Lablanc was falling), recalled various statements and connected them together to come up with several conclusions
• Seconds after seeing a password, was already able to tell that it was the number pi flipped
• Was able to figure out a woman to be already married by noticing the ring finger
• Deduced a girl stealing clothes by a few statements and her looks and actions

Cases

Note: Following Turnabout Goodbyes, Edgeworth’s mindset on how he approaches cases has changed significantly as he prioritizes unveiling the truth instead of getting a Guilty verdict at (almost) any cost. Edgeworth’s tactics in cases prior to this are noted solely for completion’s sake and highlighting his intellect and knowledge of similar situations. Hence for the sake of not confusing states of his mindset, we will be going by the chronological order of cases Miles has been involved in (take a shot every time you see the word “Turnabout” afterwards).

Turnabout Reminiscence 

This is Miles’ very first time of him going on the job, in a way. In this case he was supposed to prosecute “the second KG-8 incident” case (more on that later), however as the trial between Mack Rell and Byrne Faraday was about to begin, both were found dead in the same room so it was cancelled. Miles however insisted on investigating this murder along with Franziska Von Karma as a minor supporter. While several people were involved in the investigation, Miles was doing the main job here with figuring out all the details, proving himself to be worthy of his title.

• Beat his reflection in a staring contest
• Successfully interrogated the Judge of valuable information despite his stupidity
• Able to tell a contradiction such as pointing the weapon the victim held was on his right hand despite them being left handed.
• Comforts Kay when she was just a little girl after her father’s murder
• Helped free Gumshoe from suspicion of the murder
• Confronted and successfully deduced Calisto Yew as the murderer

Turnabout Beginnings

Miles’ actual first trial that he was prosecuting in, being put against Mia Fey and Diego Armando on the defense.  A death row inmate and prison escapee was suspected of murdering the policewoman whose testimony put him on death row five years prior on a bridge. Even though neither Miles or Mia won this case (due to the defendant dying in court), they still were able to pull off some tricks.

• Miles repeatedly insults Mia’s competence to throw her off balance, going as far as calling her a “novice bimbo” once she gained the upper hand
• Miles, and Gumshoe on the witness stand, intentionally lied about the witness’ testimony in order to mislead Mia, and didn’t reveal Dahlia Hawthorne as a key witness until further in the trial

Turnabout Sisters

Edgeworth’s debut into the series sees him prosecute Maya Fey for the murder of Mia Fey, and later on Wright following being accused by Redd White in a two part case. Despite taking his first loss, Miles came dangerously close to putting Wright behind bars and only losing out thanks to a Deus ex machina from Mia making White confess to being the killer (but you already knew that, thanks intro cutscene).

• After Phoenix pointed out that his Autopsy from Gumshoe claims the victim died instantly, Edgeworth reveals he performed a second one in secret that revealed the victim could’ve lived shortly after, presumably hiding the updated version until required to deceive Wright. (SALARY CUTTING NOISES)
• Edgeworth attempts to disrupt Wright objecting to April May knowing the statue being a clock by mentioning her account of the murder and accusing the defense of trying to confuse the issue with trivial concerns.
• Was willing to admit April May was wiretapping Mia Fey’s phone, but her testimony still stands of what she saw, showing Miles then was willing to admit his witnesses of accusing crimes so long as they don’t diminish the case at hand.
• Edgeworth told the Bellboy to not mention April May being with another person unless specifically asked, only revealing so after Wright caught him slipping up.
• Edgeworth persuades the Judge of him seemingly having noble intentions by not having Redd White testify at first due to him being busy.
• Phoenix implies that Edgeworth prepares his witnesses, such as with Redd White.
• Edgeworth tells Redd White to confess to placing the wiretap to clear up the contradiction on him knowing the room layout.
• Edgeworth tries to exploit Phoenix not having proof of his innocence by requesting the trial to be extended as a last resort.

This case gives a great insight into Edgeworth’s approach to cases prior to his growth, as he is willing to conceal information and emotionally sway the court to hinder Wright as much as possible to prove his case.

Turnabout Samurai

The next case after the one revolving around Maya Fey and Phoenix Wright defending the actor of the one and only Steel Samurai, Will Powers, with Edgeworth at the Prosecution bench after his first defeat. While an obstacle at first, Edgeworth becomes an unexpected ally towards the end to show his mindset shifting towards one of seeking the truth.

• Edgeworth attempts to dismiss the second photograph by pointing out the boy (Cody Hackins) couldn’t have wielded the spear, making the only culprit the one in the Steel Samurai outfit.
  • Continues after the break that the only one possible of committing the crime is the one in the Steel Samurai costume
• Edgeworth has no objections to Wright continuing the investigation after pointing out the possibility of Oldbag being a suspect.
• Edgeworth interrupts Phoenix mid cross-examination to mention the testimony still proves nobody from the trailer could’ve gone to Studio One, and that the monkey head was blocking the crime scene.
• Edgeworth attempts to interfere with Phoenix by telling him to stop pressing a child.
• Guesses Phoenix thinks he’s asking him to show him proof and then correctly guesses him wondering how Edgeworth guessed that from the sweat on his face.
• Edgeworth attempts to object to the trial ending after Phoenix couldn’t present decisive proof by requesting Vasquez to testify again.
• Objects to Vasquez saying she didn’t bring the script because there wouldn’t be a rehearsal, meaning she knew about the murder before it happened.
• Edgeworth notes Powers’ innocence would always be found, instead of it being a miracle.

Rise from the Ashes
(+ SL-9 Incident)

The original prosecutor of the SL-9 incident was unfortunately killed during a scuffle in police chief’s Damon Gant’s office, with Edgeworth taking over as the prosecutor of the initial case. Two years later the case would rise from the ashes when detective Bruce Goodman was supposedly murdered by Lana Skye. In discovering the truth of these two cases, Phoenix and Edgeworth were able to pull some wild antics.

• The initial SL-9 case sparked rumors of Edgeworth forging evidence, and while it is true the evidence was forged, he was entirely unaware of it.
• Miles’ questioned his own witness in order to find the truth, showing his admiration for Phoenix as a lawyer.

Farewell, My Turnabout

Another tragedy involving actors, Juan Corrida was murdered, and the main suspect was Matt Engarde, Corrida’s rival. To add even more fire to the flames, Maya Fey was kidnapped by renowned assassin Shelly de Killer. Miles returned from his international trip by then, and though he had only planned to assist Wright, his adoptive sister Franziska was injured and he was made to take her place in court.

• After being told that Maya was taken, Edgeworth put together a task force with the sole purpose of locating and saving her.
  • When she was eventually located, Phoenix and Edgeworth went to save her themselves, knocking down a door in the process.
• When Adrian Andrews’ refused to testify, Edgeworth threatened to reveal personal information regarding her suicidal tendencies to force out a testimony. 
• When the trial was coming to a standstill, both Edgeworth and Phoenix stalled until Franziska von Karma was able to deliver key evidence. 

Bridge to the Turnabout

Following a murder, Phoenix Wright had plunged into a river after running over a burning bridge in fear that his friend and coworker Maya Fey was in mortal danger. After receiving the news from Butz, Miles visited Phoenix in the hospital and, in his place, became a defense attorney for his client as he recovered.

• Became a defense attorney for the first time
• Pulled several strings to prevent unwanted parties from recognizing him as a prosecutor in court
• Used Wright’s magatama for the first time, deducing that his temporary client was not the killer based off of it

Turnabout Airlines

While on his flight home, Miles got into an accident during which one of the passengers was murdered during the flight. At first, it seemed like a standard murder case, however it was pointed out that a piece of art had been smuggled during the flight. Practically in a short time span, Miles managed to catch both the murderer and smuggler, while going with following methods:

• When Zinc Leblanc falls off the railings, Miles is able to figure out the entire method of murder in the span of a few seconds
• Absolved himself of being the culprit, despite being found at the crime scene
• Able to figure out a major art piece was a fake through just a photo comparison

The Kidnapped Turnabout

Right after Turnabout Airlines, Miles received a call revealing a kidnapping going on in the park near the airport. While knocked out by the criminal, Miles managed to both get out of the basement he was locked in (with a little help from his “new” found partner Kay), and solve the kidnapping case along with the murder that happened along with the kidnapping. All while being held back in his investigation by Agent Shi-Long Lang, forcing Miles to investigate separately from police forces.

• Figured out how to escape a locked room by figuring out the room next door was the exact same
• Deduced the kidnapping plot was fake and masterminded by the supposed victim
• Discovered and exposed the victim was the father to Lauren Paups 
• Exposed the dirty doings of the Amano family, both father and son, even after being prevented from investigating the crime scene.

Turnabout Visitor

And on top of two aforementioned cases (which, mind you, happened literally the same day along with this one), when Miles returned to his room, he discovered a dead body and someone tampering with his belongings. Despite that, he managed to discover the murderer of this case pretty quickly.

• Was immediately able to tell that his office was unlocked and detected the scent of blood
• Deduced that the crime happening in his office was no mere coincidence
• Can tell two guns were involved due to how many bullets were fired 
• Paid extra close attention to how his files were organized so that he knew something was off
• Able to deduce the culprit switched the door plates to get into his own office
• Deduced Jacques Portsman as the true culprit of the crime who was a fellow prosecutor like him
• Proved the innocence of both Gumshoe and Maggey Bryde on one night

Turnabout Ablaze

After discovering the calling card of a fake Yatagarasu, Edgeworth and Kay found themselves at the Cohdopian Embassy. There, it is discovered that two men have been murdered and Kay is under suspicion by Interpol. Things get chaotic (and really, really long), but eventually, Edgeworth cracked the case and uncovered the mastermind behind it all, including the aforementioned KG-8 incident.

• By making note of Babahlese ink’s properties alongside a secret tunnel in a fireplace, he able to uncover the plot to frame Kay for murder
• Unearthed Manny Coachen as a member of a smuggling ring and as a major player in its plans
• Able to deduce an old murder weapon was actually 2 seperate keys at once (knife shaped key, don’t ask)
• Deduces that Agent Shih-na was actually his old adversary Callisto Yew, despite not having seen each other in 7 years
• Argued with and defeated Quercus Alba, who had diplomatic immunity (and a thousand rebuttals) for 4 hours straight

Turnabout Trigger

A few weeks after Turnabout Ablaze, Miles’ country was visited by the president Di-Jun Wang of Zheng Fa (the country Agent Lang also came from). But it ended up being no ordinary visit, as during his speech, there was assasination attempt on him. It was up to Miles to figure out the mystery of the failed assasination and the death of one of the President’s bodyguards.

• Was able to persuade Tabby Lloyd to disclose information of the supposed presidential shooting, despite her stubborn reporter nature
• Solved the president’s assassination publicity stunt, and then deduced it being used as a cover up for Bronco Knight’s murder scheme
• Tricked Bronco Knight by utilizing the bullets and lack of fingerprints to indict him

The Captive Turnabout

Days after figuring out the plot behind the President’s assasination attempt, Miles had one more challenge to endure, as the same man who assassinated the President’s bodyguard was killed in the detention center. What made the case even harder to approach was the pressure from the Committee for Prosecutorial Excellence in the face of judge Verity Gavèlle and “prodigy” prosecutor Eustace Winner, who at that time were committing a “Prosecutor Purge” attempting to remove problematic prosecutors, including Miles himself. Because of that, Miles’ investigational rights were tied as he had limited space and time for his own investigation and his logic was contested by threats of removing his badge (and therefore his job as well). Despite all of that, Miles was able to figure out the murder, its method and all of its mysteries.

• Appointed by Eddie Fender to assist in the investigation of the case
• Interrogated and forced Frank Sawhit to confess his involvement and knowledge of the crime
• Freed Bodhidharma Kanis of suspicion alongside his client, Simeon Saint
• Successfully indicted Fifi Laguarde of her crime and found her hidden murder weapon, which was inside an alligator

Turnabout Legacy 

The IS-7 incident is a case known for many things. For one, it is effectively the case that kickstarts the entire events of Ace Attorney. Literally, as it is Gregory Edgeworth’s last case which eventually led to his death at the hands of von Karma, and everything else after, including Miles becoming a prosecutor, Phoenix Wright becoming a defense attorney, the Fey clan going through many murders, and most importantly right now, all of the events in Ace Attorney Investigations 2. It took 18 years to revisit the case until a murder attempt occurred in the same place, and now Miles Edgeworth had to solve not only the current case, but also figure out the actual culprit of the IS-7 incident, as it hadn’t been brought to justice until now (all with similar limitations and threats as in the previous case).

• Even after being kicked off the case, he found a loophole by investigating under Eddie Fender as a defense attorney’s assistant
• Found out Judy Bound’s murder plan as revenge for Samson Tangaroa’s false imprisonment
• Found a loophole around the statute of limitations to bring Carmelo Gusto to justice
• Freed Samson Tangaroa from his charges after 18 years, completing his fathers final case

A Turnabout Forsaken

Miles’ assistant Kay Faraday received head trauma hard enough to get a full on amnesia, not knowing who she was, or what she had been doing the day she lost her memory. Not only that, but in the same tower where Kay received her head trauma was a dead body of prosecutor Rosie Ringer, and the first accused to be a culprit behind the case was Kay herself. Miles not only had to prove Kay (who lost both her memory and faith in herself) not guilty, but also fight against the Committee for Prosecutorial Excellence, who would stop at nothing to prove Kay anything short of guilty.

• Managed to investigate and find an undercover black market auction despite resigning his position as a prosecutor
• Despite being incarcerated, he was able to interrogate Excelsius Winner about his knowledge of the case and his intentional framing of Kay Faraday
• Unveiled the truth of Excelsius’ involvement as the black market conductor and as the murderer of Rosie Ringer
• Restored Kay’s memories

Turnabout for the Ages

Mere minutes after the end of A Turnabout Forsaken, Miles was soon face to face with the body of president Di-Jun Wang, his body crushed under a giant footprint. Not only that, the son of Verity Gavèlle was kidnapped and used as a hostage for Excelsius and Laguarde’s trials. By meeting up with his former rival, Shi-Long Lang, Edgeworth must not only give Excelsius and Laguarde their justice, not just solve the death of the president, but save others he met across his journey, solve the SS-5 Incident that brought shame to the Lang family name, and confront the mastermind who orchestrated every event so far. 

• Helped restore Eustace Winner’s confidence, allowing him to confront his father
• Alongside Kay and Gumshoe, rescued Shaun Fenn from Simeon Saint’s captivity
• Successfully halted Excelsius Winner’s attempts of an acquittal for him and Laguarde
• Deduced that the current Zheng Fa president was a body double of the original, who was killed 7 years ago
• Figured out Simeon Saint’s identity as the mastermind behind the events of the game, as well as his murder of the body double president
• Earned back his prosecutor’s badge

Turnabout for Tomorrow

Turnabout for Tomorrow was partially a retrial for the UR-1 Incident, in which Edgeworth presided as the prosecutor. 7 years before the retrial, Simon Blackquill was arrested for the murder of Metis Cykes. Phoenix and Miles act together to get to the truth of the matter.

• When Blackquill took over as the prosecution, Miles held his investigation of Bobby Fulbright, discovering that the original Bobby Fulbright has been dead for a year, and the Phantom has taken his place

Turnabout Time Traveller

A most curious case. Standing before the courtroom is a soon-to-be wed woman, under arrest for the murder of a man who attempted to kill her. Her story? She made a wish just before her doom, and it took her back in time. Edgeworth was assigned to the case as prosecutor, and his and Wright’s combined intellect soon revealed this was a much more complicated case than what meets the eye.

• Took the case because his subordinates were too cowardly to prosecute against a rich family
• Proved that self defense wasn’t a possible conclusion to a verdict and put a negative light on the suspect
• Made Phoenix Wright sweat even after years of experience 
• Assisted Phoenix Wright in finding the true culprit despite being on opposite sides

Miscellaneous

(Yes, they had a trial in a literal express train, deal with it)

Aside from the mainline Ace Attorney series, our famous lawyers have experienced turnabouts across various mediums separate from the games, whether it be anime, manga, movies or even stage plays with new cases at hand, here we are listing everything Miles’ intellect managed to demonstrate throughout them all.

• In Turnabout Teleportation, immediately upon witnessing murder scene, Miles was already able to point out the place and method of murder being faked, via several nearby pieces of evidence.
  • As soon as he figured that out, he immediately gave a command to block exits and entrances to the village, and question each person that wished to leave.

• Right after Wendy Oldbag gave a statement that she didn’t see anyone pass by the shrine, Miles pointed out through her own words that she did see a person (Asukai Tomorrow in this case) to pass by “last night”.
  • By pointing out one more oddity around the case Miles also gaslit Wendy to testify about what she witnessed last night
• Successfully disguised himself as Phoenix Wright without anyone in court noticing
• In Northward, Turnabout Express, after digging through an old case, convinced the American Chief Prosecutor to relook and clean up the American Justice System
• Convinced the Chief Prosecutor to give Avery Richman a proper retrial

Saul Goodman

Overall

• Became an established criminal lawyer in New Mexico 
• Became a friend of the cartel 
• Made millions due to his schemes 
• Helped Walter White become the drug empire kingpin of New Mexico 
• Escaped law enforcement under the name Gene Tacovic for an extended period 
• Went to prison and admitted his crimes 

Intelligence

• Spent his early years as a conman with Marco
• Talked Tuco Salamanca down from certain death into a broken leg each
• Talked a 200-year-long sentence into 7 years with his own choice of prison
• Pretended to be Howard Hamlin to ruin his reputation on multiple occasions 
• Slipped and fell on a drumstick to secure a deal 
• Threatened to sue his community service officer to get money and a break
• Got someone to rig an elevator to sort out multiple cases at once
• Tricked Mike Ehrmantraut into going to the wrong location while he was looking for Jesse
• Figured out two young punks scams moment after they hit his car 

Cases

Note: Likewise Jimmy’s mindset over the cases also eventually changed, so it’s a bit important to take a note of that as well, though his switch of an approach was a lot slower than with Miles, so we would recommend to take notes through reading, as we will also be going here in a chronological order more or less.

The Sandpiper Crossing Case

One of Saul’s first cases. The residents of Sandpiper Crossing feared that they were subjects of overcharging and general wrongdoing. Saul decided to investigate himself, and with Chuck’s help, they were able to form a case between the managers of this retirement home. Even though the ownership of the case was thrown all over the place, it showcased a big part of Saul’s work ethic.

• Saul found that Sandpiper had illegal interstate commerce of syringes, which is a RICO penalty. 
• Saul boarded a Sandpiper bus, convincing many new clients to join the class action lawsuit against Sandpiper.
• Saul used his production team to put out a commercial to gain traction for the case, gaining a lot of clientele and mass publicity.
• Saul ostracized Irene who was the class representative of the lawsuit, turning her friends against her; Saul convinces her that the only way to regain their approval is to settle early, giving him a small payday.

Mesa Verde

Not really a case and moreso a duration of interactions between Saul and the banking company Mesa Verde Bank and Trust. One of the first clients of the Wexler McGill firm, Saul has made several moves both to the benefit and detriment of the company.

• Saul replaced Chuck’s Mesa Verde case files with forged copies, leading Chuck to use them during a hearing for Mesa Verde’s new branch, which led to the case getting postponed for 6 weeks.
• When Mesa Verde was attempting to take Everett Acker’s land, Saul blackmailed the company’s owner with photos from his home as well as a slanderous commercial so the owner would drop the eviction, admit the company’s logo was plagiarized, and would pay Everett Acker $45,000 as an apology.

Chuck McGill Trial

A classic case of Chicanery. After learning of Saul’s forgery of the Mesa Verde files, Chuck takes it to the New Mexico Bar Association. Forming a hearing for Saul in order to get him disbarred. The disbarment case quickly becomes McGill v McGill, a case that would lead to the loss of Chuck’s sanity, as well as his life.

• Saul hires Mike to appear as a repairman, entering Chuck’s house to fix a door that Saul broke. Using an electric drill to scare Chuck away, Mike takes pictures of the house that would be used in the upcoming hearing.
• Saul uses Huell Babineaux to plant a fully charged battery in Chuck’s pocket, proving that Chuck’s allergy to electromagnetic hypersensitivity was only a mental illness. Leading to an outburst that helped Saul and Kim claim that Saul’s wrongdoings were the cause of Chuck’s persecution. Which resulted in Saul’s law license only getting suspended, rather than the full disbarment. 

Huell’s Arrest 

While selling phones out of the back of his van, Huell unknowingly struck a police officer over the head with a bag, knocking him out. Huell was arrested by the police officer, with Saul trying everything to make the case unwinnable. 

• While on a trip to Coushatta, Saul wrote hundreds of fake letters in defense of Huell and went as far as getting others on board to write these letters
• Using the phones he bought, a fake website, and Saul Goodman Productions, Saul and his team impersonated members of the Free Will Baptist Church. Through impressions, Saul managed to convince the prosecutor that they’re real.   

Badger Case

After being tricked by an undercover cop, Badger was arrested by the Albuquerque Police Department for dealing drugs. Since he was dealing blue meth, the DEA realized that Badger had ties to Heisenberg. With no other choice, Walt and Jesse decided that they’d Better Call Saul.

• Upon being abducted by Walt and Jesse, Saul was able to figure out their identities because of Walt’s coughing, taking control of the situation and calling their bluff. 
• Saul hired Jimmy In-‘N-Out to take the fall for Walt, successfully getting Badger out of prison and further questioning.
• Saul hired Mike to find where Walt works, joining his operation and working as Heisenberg’s lawyer.

Sentence Trial

The end of the line for Saul Goodman. After being caught under his pseudonym ‘Gene Takavic’, Saul is tried for all of his crimes. This is the final chapter in Saul’s book, it all ends here, after this it’s Saul Gone. 

• Talked a potential 200 year sentence down into a 7 year one with a prison of his own choosing.
• Out of some need to prove to everyone that he could be better, Saul confesses to everything. Gaining him a full on life sentence.

Miscellaneous

Saul has pulled many schemes throughout the two series. Not all of them can be compiled into direct cases, so we’ll just be using this as an et cetera.  

• After the Wayfarer Flight 515 collision, Saul organized a class action lawsuit for the victims of the crash, as well as anyone who ‘suffered emotionally’

• Saul uses Kuby to con Bogdan Wolynetz with fake contaminated water so Wolynetz would sell his car wash to Walter and Skyler for money laundering.
• After a bunch of punks beat him up for selling phones on their turf, Saul creates a trap and lures the punk towards said location. Through stringing them up, using Pinatas, and having two big men with baseball bats, he successfully manages to convince the punks to stay off of his turf 
• Saul kept an eye on Ted Beneke’s bank account, pulling his funds to show how he’s spending money given to him by Skyler. 
• Along with Kim, Saul ruined Howard Hamlin’s life by…
  • Sneaking baby powder into his locker to make it seem like Howard was addicted to cocaine
  • Disguising himself as Howard and kicking a prostitute out of Howard’s car to make him seem insane
  • Tricked him into thinking the Sandpiper mediator took a bribe from Saul, while swapping private investigator photos with innocent photos of Saul being handed a frisbee, forcing the Sandpiper case to be settled early

Weaknesses

Miles Edgeworth

Due to his trauma stemming from the DL-6 Incident, Miles has developed an incredible phobia of earthquakes and elevators. Not like it’d be much of an issue in a battle, but still. He’s also outwardly overconfident even far into his career; if a hole is found in his argument, he loses his footing and often has to figure out his theory from scratch due to his style of prosecution. In addition, due to his past, he refuses to accept the supernatural as real, leading him to some logical fallacies.

Saul Goodman

For as smart as Saul is, he’s not without flaws. In spite of his suave schemes and manipulation, he can be susceptible to that sort of thing himself. He’s fallen for schemes before, such as when Chuck and Howard managed to catch him destroying evidence. 

Threats from dealers like Walter and Gus have quickly put him into submission. He also has slight PTSD from his run-ins with the cartel, especially Lalo Salamanca. It is also worth mentioning that despite Saul’s talented way of speech, he can’t talk out of direct evidence, especially if it’s in your face, which is demonstrated in both his first seen trial in Better Call Saul, his first appearance in Breaking Bad when he couldn’t get Badger a Not Guilty verdict and had to negotiate, as well as Lalo Salamanca’s trial where he only lightened the damage as well, rather than preventing it, leading to overall Lalo paying money cash and Saul delivering it.

Verdict

As one could tell this is far from ordinary fight, and therefore categories covered here are a lot more different, based on it being an intellectual fight of course. So with all collected evidence at our hands, let the jury demonstrate their decision:

Physical Fight

Let’s start from one question that would interest any VS fan’s curiosity no matter what sort of fight it is: “Who would win in an actual fight?”. Ironically while Miles and Jimmy punching each other midway through trial isn’t particularly likely, there is small but a possibility of some of their associates to be involved in a physical fight, notably Gumshoe and other associates on Saul’s side like Mike, Clarence or even Huell. So by covering that in a bit, we are practically killing 2 rabbits with one shot. Strength and Durability can be considered as a toss up but practically this is the time where you have to involve those who normally are not a factor in this fight: Phoenix Wright and Walter White.

One thing Ace Attorney fans know about Phoenix Wright is just how damn unkillable he is. Just as a reference, he has been…

• whipped constantly by Franziska von Karma
• tased with 600,000 volts by Manfred von Karma
• clubbed by Richard Wellington and got amnesia (which he recovered from mid-trial)
• burned by Godot’s scalding hot coffee
• attacked by a literal tiger
• eaten a locket with a deadly poison and lived
• Fell into a freezing cold river from a very high bridge which is considered to be deadly and was hospitalized with a mild fever
• Most notably, got hit by a car so hard that it launched him far enough to hit a light pole that was reportedly 30 feet / 9 meters away. Wright only got a sprained ankle and then walked away as if nothing happened
  • Later on, you can even see the car being broken to some degree. In other words, a car received more damage from ramming into Wright than vice versa.

Walter White, and Breaking Bad in general have less feats that would be considered as insane for a human, but there is still that time he, or at least Tuco and his associates were fine after an explosion caused by mercury fulminate. This can put the Breaking Bad cast on par with Ace Attorney if not superior, but aside from the fact that Ace Attorney is just, notoriously more consistent with their superhuman feats (and therefore less likely to be shrugged off as an outlier of sorts), some of the people in cast have pretty much similar feats of surviving explosives, like Apollo Justice who, while injured, didn’t receive straight up lethal damage when an entire courtroom exploded. Or Ini Miney who survived a car crash, very impressively displayed in the anime version. Without numbers, it is easy to point out that Ace Attorney gets it much better with feats, given their consistency and usually more visual impressions.

Especially when it comes to speed. Really there aren’t that many speed feats to note in the Breaking Bad universe and obviously usually they are portrayed as incapable of dodging something that is way too fast like a bullet. The Ace Attorney cast on the other hand…well let’s count; multiple people, including Wright (several times, as well as both him and Gumshoe simultaneously) and Detective Tyrell Badd being able to dodge Franziska’s whip. That collection of feats alone is already impressive given that the speed of a whip can be faster than speed of sound. And that is without tackling some of the more absurd feats like, how Ted Tonate is able to dismantle a whole bomb at intense speeds, or how Juniper Woods can very quickly sew a blanket. Hell for what it is worth, we even see Gumshoe somewhat dodging bullets, so chances are if Mike for some reason would seem necessary to pull out a gun, Gumshoe would both outspeed and outforce him, leading to while not precisely but something like this:

And that kind of interaction is similar to basically any potential physical conflicts between Breaking Bad character and Ace Attorney character: the latter are just, very notably a lot more impressive in the whole stat trinity, including in a fight between Miles and Saul. On top of that, Miles also just has much bigger balls of steel compared to Saul. Both are still overall human beings and it’s reasonable for Jimmy to react to some of his life threatening situations, but it’s simply clear cut that Miles is much braver when in comparison he didn’t even remotely lose his cool when being threatened by a gun. Miles simply would just be a bigger menace if it for some reason came down to it. With that out of the way, we can get to some other more important factors of the fight:

Arsenal &
Tactics

Now let’s go over more important factors in the fight, that being their tactics thanks to which they end up taking so many cases, and outsmarting people in the world of law and crime. Generally it’s rather agreeable that something like intellect and skill can’t be just compared in numbers or layers or anything of a number. For the utmost fair comparison, we must go over their character and well, feats. Equipment wise obviously neither side on their own don’t have anything game changing, if you want to take into account their cars, well, guess they’d never be late on a trial that’s for sure, otherwise though…generally speaking, Ace Attorney cases are some of the most notoriously complicated cases in history of puzzle games and just in the genre of detective stories, Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul also has its fair share of mind games, some just as complicated and multi task in their operation like how Mike and Gus were tracking each other or the entire Chuck trial, etc. 

If we were to compare, Miles is more known to be thorough in his investigations and does his offensive role very well, usually it matches perfectly with his rival Wright to expose the truth, because of which he is also more honorable to stoop down to do dirty tactics. Jimmy on the other hand manipulates people and evidence around himself, doing everything that is physically possible for him to get what he wants. In this scenario we are having 2 people who do the opposite in their arguments, so let’s try and think about potential interactions with their tactics. For instance, Pressing to get the information from witnesses, Jimmy potentially can counter it by bribing witnesses to either say faulty information or to not say crucial information. But let’s keep in mind that Miles’ opponents already had tendency to do so, and by Presenting contradictions he was able to expose these lies forcing to eventually uncover the truth or waiting for the opening within their statements through Logic Chess, which is notable considering Miles with Logic Chess was able to find common language with all sort of people, whether it be aggressive tone president, straight up idiot like Larry, cold-hearted Judge Gavelle or even at the moment emotionally unstable Eustace Winner (or Sebastian Debeste, depending on what name you like more…). It’s not really hard to imagine for Miles to do a similar case with a witness that Saul bribed. And similarly if Miles and Jimmy have the argument, Jimmy often has to play more safe and not slip up in his wording, with how good of a memory Miles got, even a slight mistake can unravel his logic. 

On the other hand it would be hard to demote the guy with a name “Saul Goodman” when it comes to his charisma, Saul is a solid negotiator and manipulates with emotions really well, at some point even utilises his genuine emotion while giving away wrong info, as he himself said: “If you’re committed enough, you can make any story work. I once told a woman I was Kevin Costner, and it worked…because I believed it.”. And well, it won’t be wrong to say that as long as there is nothing that can disprove his beliefs…until facts of the case will be revealed more and more clearly. 

Practically in a general 1v1 argument, Jimmy starts with some upper hand and preparations but has to play relatively more carefully than Miles, as any mistake on his side can cause his logic to crumble, especially if there is more and more evidence presented against his case. At that point we need to take a few steps back and take a look at another deciding factor that generally gives us pace of how the fight should go:

Investigation &
Associates

Whatever is their tactic in court, it holds up depending on the evidence itself, the less evidence there is against the client the easier it is for Jimmy to keep his logic, and vice versa, the more evidence around gives more opportunities for Miles to expose the truth. That’s why we would like to consider how the investigational process would go, as the result of the investigation can determine the overall flow of the trial. Miles is known to look at every suspicious nook and cranny and Jimmy also has a decently notable feat of fabricating evidence, at least when he was stalling to prevent Mesa Verde from ruining the house or making Howard look like a drug addict and making him think that the judge was bribed just to mess with him. 

However their investigational process is also done largely with help of their associates which is why how their support interacts in the investigation is a major factor to how the overall investigation would proceed. In this case Saul’s best calls are Mike, Huell and Saul Goodman Productions. Mike is generally skilled to be sneaky and can either plant bugs to receive information or just blend into the environment of a police, Huell is very known pickpocketer who can theoretical take away evidence by just pickpocketing it, and Saul Goodman Productions with enough preparations can help Saul to just make up evidence.

Miles’s best calls meanwhile are Gumshoe, Kay and Ema. All three provide some of the best ways to receive and fact check the information/evidence, thanks to Ema Miles can directly know fingerprints position, blood position, footprints, poisons, hell, hidden messages within other objects, Kay and Little Thief can practically make a review of the crime scene and see if evidence match with given information directly, and from here even point out what information is fake, and plot twist…Gumshoe is kinda OP, Missile can detect tasty scents so with a decent probability he can find some information by using it, but that is more luck based, thankfully there are also factors like Metal Detector which helps to detect any possible hidden metal object, bug sweeper which countermeasures bugs from being used, and perhaps the most useful tool from him Li’l Vee.

With Li’l Vee’s technical ability to see photos and videos a lot more precisely there is a higher probability for any potential mistakes and contradictions to be noted within the footage. While Gumshoe himself isn’t particularly sharp witted, he does his job well especially where it counts, as he never really failed at task that was given to him, at some point he even was able to straight up clutch cases because of his sheer tenacity and loyalty, if anything that is heavily admirable on his end.

If comparing their support, Miles’ side has very decent countermeasures to plenty of options of fabricating evidence on Saul’s end, especially Li’l Vee and Little Thief. And Ema’s scientific arsenal is usually not something from which we’ve seen Jimmy to hide the evidence. This leaves Saul’s options to steal evidence rather than fabricating it, because Miles has experience in noticing those, especially with his support ensuring that in mind. So can Huell, Mike and Ira have a good job with stealing that evidence? Well let’s consider that if Huell attempts to steal evidence in front of Miles, he may get away unnoticed at first, but eventually may be pointed out as a potential suspect, given how good of a memory Miles got. 

Mike and Ira on the other hand would probably have to steal the evidence not from pickpocketing but by going within Police’s/Miles’ evidence collection and getting it from here. What makes it complicated however is that Miles’ safe for evidence is hidden pretty well behind the frame of his first costume, while police keep relevant evidence within safes that require them to use fingerprints to open them. We never really seen Mike or Ira being able to mess with that technology, but even if they could, the chances are for them to be left noticed via the camera (and by extension Li’l Vee), forces them to target police department with a lot more preparation that may be even trickier to pull off with a limited time frame in mind. Especially given that Miles also has experience with people identical to Mike like Shelly De Killer and Bodhidharma Kanis (more notably former tho). We even see Miles in the manga being able to tell a girl stealing clothes with just a few statements and deduction of behavior, which is quite frankly an insane observational skill, making Mike and by extension other associates potentially vulnerable to be exposed by Miles directly.

At this point it is probably also important to consider the loyalty of Miles’ and Saul’s support, taking in the possibility of how far can associates on each side go to help. This is a factor where Miles takes it easier compared to the rest, all of Miles’ friends are, well, genuine friends with bonds, who are ready to give it all and help even when they are not legally obliged to, like Gumshoe and Ema. Saul’s friends are mostly co-workers ultimately, this doesn’t mean that he doesn’t have bonds with them either, especially given the whole Huell case of how Saul pulled lots of strings together to get him out. But given their profession and actual events in the show, they are not as likely to keep their A game to help just whenever it is possible. More often than not they’ll go as far as Jimmy pays them, and they probably would have to be overall more careful in case they themselves are exposed. 

A very notable example would also be Huell who just straight up gave away info about Heisenberg when Hank was even simply bluffing, it’s just more likely a lot of Saul’s associates won’t be as helpful once their freedom/life actually gets in the line. Saul’s most loyal/smart asset here is Mike at this point, but even he very notoriously does only what he is being paid to do, nothing more, nothing less. And Mike is also still a criminal who if exposed would rather resort to leaving like how he almost did in Breaking Bad. It’s just due to the status of most of Saul’s support and way lesser connection, Miles’ associates are more likely to be a bigger help, countermeasure potential fabrications and overall leave the evidence edge to Miles (but with a very tough effort).

But practically even aside from the factor of how loyalty can affect the investigational performance, tools that are on Miles’ end are a lot more plentiful and can pretty notably expose the majority of necessary information. And that’s without even mentioning Miles’ control over the Police Department, especially nowadays as a Chief Prosecutor, he practically can have full control and track of the investigation, making sure that both evidence and witnesses won’t go far. But even with that into account there is one last factor  that helps out to give away a full conclusion.

Experience & Skill

We already discussed that either Miles or Saul can have the edge, depending entirely on if the truth of the case is more open or closed out. But on top of that, to figure out how all their interactions could go, we must compare their experience & skill. Practically as we’ve pointed out, as long as more evidence on Miles’ side it is easier for Miles to keep up strong and harder for Jimmy to recover, but generally we’ve seen Jimmy to do still pretty well against Chuck who had a direct evidence against him, and we’ve seen Miles to be able to stay on foot even when he is forced to present more evidence. It is fairly possible for either to deliver a solid comeback at their worst.

You could say that plenty of Miles’ comebacks are somewhat contextual, but you can also say the same about some of Saul’s biggest tricks, he already knew about Chuck and how he thinks, similarly he knew how Howard thinks as well, that knowledge (which came to him from knowing them for years) is partially what led Saul to pulling these tricks, even Howard a few moments before his death notes that this whole plan Jimmy and Kim had required a lot of coordination and planning (which he isn’t really wrong about, they planned it for a pretty long time).

But let’s think, we’ve already covered the bribery possibility and how that would play out, let’s cover blackmail, not necessarily blackmailing Miles, but blackmailing judge, jury or again, a witness. But Jimmy isn’t likely to do a physical blackmail, if anything it is more likely to be an informational blackmail. Now Miles already actually was faced against blackmail in Investigations 2, not only when CPE was practically limiting him and his investigation (which he ignored and solved cases anyway), but also when Gavelle’s son Shaun was held hostage, Miles not only was able to rescue and prevent the blackmail, but he also was the one to figure out her being blackmailed in the first place thanks to your one and only Logic Chess. It’s possible that Miles would at least figure out the person being blackmailed and play around that similarly like he did previously. 

If we also compare their tactics overall, while Jimmy has faced straightforward, lawful and at some point even overconfident foes, like again, Chuck, Howard and other lawful people, Miles meanwhile has faced tons of manipulative tricksters, charismatic people who even tend to expose law for their advantage: Calisto Yew (twice), Quercus Alba, Excelcius Winner, Carmelo Gusto, Simeon Saint (the entire circus guy…), list can go on. So how to figure out who came on top better than the other?

Well, practically it should be a matter of consistency, and Miles’ intelligence fights are a lot less contextual than Jimmy’s. Both defeat their opponents similarly and even tend to expose their ego or other personality trait to get what they want, but Miles does it against his opponents on fly and while debating on their territory on top of all that, while Jimmy was planning ahead already based on the knowledge of his opponents (said opponents that he knew for around years and was pretty close to them), and when evidence goes fully against him he is unable to actually claim his defendant of not committing the crime (like with Badger and Lalo, both of which Saul couldn’t really protect because the evidence simply was just in your face). Which is why it comes down to the final and biggest factor in mind that wasn’t brought up by us yet: how would Saul’s Negotiations tactics play out overall? 

That is the last and biggest trump card of Saul, which overall is what leads him to taking edge even in trials that he is most certain to lose, finding common language with people, going with specific law rules to use for his advantage, Jimmy’s Tuco negotiations and his last trial just demonstrate how Jimmy can somewhat control the narrative. At that point you could argue it being technically a stalemate/tie, given that Jimmy couldn’t prove his client to be not guilty but managed to lighten the overall sentence. But if James McGill plays along with law’s rules and contradictions, Miles Edgeworth is the one to fight and expose these contradictions. And what is essentially a major contrast in this match, their polar differences in paths they’ve picked despite not so different backgrounds, is what ultimately serves as a last nail to the coffin in our overall conclusion.

Conclusion

Miles Edgeworth

“You once asked me something, Fender: “Are you going to keep fighting crime as a prosecutor, or help people as an attorney?”. I’ve been thinking about that question ever since. About how I mean to live my life…And now that this case is over, I think I finally know the answer. I’m going to help people as a prosecutor.”

Advantages:

• More straightforward and will eventually take the lead as soon as facts are on his side
• Smart enough to switch lines of questioning in case a witness is bribed and/or blackmailed (especially with Logic Chess in mind)
• Overall more loyal associates with methods that ensure getting accurate evidence (Little Thief, Li’l Vee, Luminol, etc.)
• Evidence is kept safely enough to keep it from being tampered 
• Can memorise events so he could note if Saul or anyone/anything on his side do anything suspicious
• Has been in more cases
• Has more experience in dealing with people like Saul than vice versa
• Also has experience in dealing with people similar to Mike
• Is in fact, physically superior of the 2
• Investigations 2 is peak
• Can update the autopsy report
• Naramitsu tops

Disadvantages:

• Saul has some experience in dealing with people identical to Miles
• Saul is overall more charismatic giving him edge at the start
• Potential tampering with witnesses via bribery/blackmail can force Miles to switch line of questioning, lessening chances of getting needed information
• Saul Goodman Productions creating fabricated evidence can potentially make it harder for Miles to investigate
• Saul’s associates can potentially tamper with evidence (Most notably Huell who could pickpocket it)
• Saul could lighten the sentence with by negotiating should Miles not pursue the case any further
• Extraterritorial rights
• That man

Saul Goodman

“But, with good behavior, who knows?“

Advantages:

• More charismatic, which gives an edge at the beginning of the trial
• By utilizing bribery and blackmail, Saul can block Miles from one line of questioning
• Saul Goodman Productions can fabricate evidence to give Saul an edge
• Associates potentially can tamper with the evidence
• Has experience in dealing with people identical to Miles like Chuck and Howard…
• Could lighten the sentence thanks to his negotiations even under a Guilty verdict…
• Show is peak
• 3D

Disadvantages:

• Eventually can lose the lead as soon as there are more facts (and evidence) on Miles’ side
• Associates are generally on a payroll and not as loyal to Saul compared to Miles
• Miles’ associates can verify accuracy of evidence, preventing usage of tampered evidence
• Miles can eventually still get answers he needs from witnesses either by pointing out contradictions, or via Logic Chess
• Miles’ evidence is kept very safely making it heavily complicated for Saul’s associates to tamper with it 
• Has to play more carefully as Miles can memorise previous statements and note if there are contradictions
• …but has less experience when looking vice versa 
• …but it is unlikely in this scenario given Miles pursues to expose the whole truth
• Physically inferior of the 2
• Slippin’ Jimmy
• 53 Emmy nominations and somehow 0 wins 

This is frankly, quite a fascinating match up, even in the context of intelligence based MUs, and by all means, it is far from an easy fight for both. Saul’s tactics are great in opening, he can manipulate with evidence, witnesses and even narrative of the crime with his negotiation skills. But ultimately, Miles’ tactics and experience are what eventually give him the edge the more facts are on his side, and his associates can ensure to prevent evidence from being manipulated and the truth from being twisted. It might not have been s’all good, as this trial would be turned about, as the Goodman’s chicanery would be unmasked by this ace attorney.

Hereby the jury of this court declares the defendant as…

That is all.

This court is adjourned!

Jury Votes

Guilty (8) – door-kun, Oleggator, Retro, Trashy, Hyperstarman, Violet, Js250476, Yerm

Not Guilty (0) 

Undecided (1) – Saul 

Next Time…