“Death is not the greatest loss in life. The greatest loss is what dies inside us while we live.” -Norman Cousins

As one of the greatest mysteries on Earth, death is many things depending on who you ask: the end of one’s existence, a way to pass on to an afterlife befitting the way a person lived in this mortal plane, a void of nothingness, or even a way to move into a different life than the one lived previously. Nobody can know for certain, save at least for the lucky few who have managed to defy death itself by coming back from the grave, and these two men are proof of it. Once the young sidekicks to legendary heroes whose reputations were built not by amazing superpowers but by their will to battle injustice, our next combatants have followed those legacies by delving down into darker paths that saw them cross lines their mentors would have dared not journey.

Winter Soldier, the unyielding Silver Patriot and ex-wartime comrade of Marvel’s First Avenger.

Red Hood, the vengeful Gotham Outlaw and protege-turned-rival to DC’s Dark Knight.

Long thought to have stayed dead by comic book historians, Bucky Barnes and Jason Todd’s resurrections saw them transform into two of the most ruthless assassins to ever exist, armed and trained to reach peak efficiency as unstoppable killing machines. They have saved many lives in their battles against evildoers everywhere, and have taken much more to enforce their justice. Death Battle is about to put their skills and arsenals to the test as they have their next targets lined up for the kill in each other; who will have the guts to cheat death one more time?

Background

Winter Soldier

“I’ve learned to live with my guilt. That’s what pushes me to be better.”

In the years during and following the Cold War, the intelligence community began hearing murmurs of a mysterious assassin who participated in many risky operations around the globe. Official sightings and documentation to prove his existence were few and far in between, but those that did catch him revealed a masked man within his apparent 20s to 30s clad in black and a silver bionic arm adorned with a red star. Further information on him soon pieced together who he was: a wet work operative who served the Soviet Union under the codename of the “Winter Soldier”, although his real identity was that of a man far removed from the cold landscape of Russia: former US Army special operative James Buchanan “Bucky” Barnes.

Born in 1920’s Indiana, Bucky joined the Army at the onset of World War II in pursuit of the same career path his late father once took. It was during his training that he met and befriended fellow New Yorker Steve Rogers, whose secret identity as the costumed super soldier Captain America was one Bucky had accidentally discovered after a routine drill session. Sworn to secrecy, Bucky soon became the Captain’s sidekick, and the two participated in many missions to push the Allied assault in Europe. An operation in Germany going awry apparently led to the young man’s death, but unbeknownst to the rest of the world, Bucky was found near death by Soviets after the war ended, and brought to their secret Department X to be experimented upon.

After loads of physical conditioning in addition to brainwashing, elite-level training and repeated cryogenic-induced sleep to keep him in his physical prime despite his own age, the Winter Soldier continued to serve his superiors even long after the fall of the Soviet Union. For decades, his assassinations shaped history from the shadows, until a fateful reunion with his old mentor put an end to his programming. Having survived the accident that supposedly killed him and now working towards fighting for justice in a new age, Captain America successfully brought back Bucky’s old memories after months of pursuing him, filling the once stone-faced assassin with years upon years of regret over actions he could not consciously control.

Seeking a way to make amends, the Winter Soldier turned to a life of espionage, now utilizing the techniques taught to him in order to keep the world in check through whatever means he could. He gained membership with both the Avengers and S.H.I.E.L.D., participated in battles with all sorts of supernatural and technologically-advanced foes that seemed like fiction to him in the distant past, and even assumed the mantle of Captain America for a spell after Steve’s apparent death. While maintaining the killer instinct of his old identity, his time as one of Earth’s mightiest heroes with nothing but his raw skill and desire to uphold justice by any means has made Bucky the type of hero his younger self dreamed of becoming all those years ago.

Red Hood

“Can’t fight crime without cracking a few skulls.”

Throughout his many years of fighting crime in Gotham City and beyond, Batman has amassed a large gallery of rogues who have dedicated their lives not just to wreaking havoc wherever they pleased, but to breaking the man behind the cowl in retaliation for his interference in their plans. Such was the case with the Red Hood, a mysterious vigilante that emerged on the streets one day, seemingly copying the Caped Crusader’s own methods in fighting crime, but in a much more lethal manner that defied his own aversion to killing. Underneath the mask was a man who had once given his all to aid Batman in the past, and returned as an agent of vengeance who wanted nothing more than to make him suffer: Jason Peter Todd, the second Robin.

Once an orphan who resorted to doing anything he could to survive on the streets, Jason was recruited by Batman after helping him fend off an ambush by a group of thugs, and succeeded Dick Grayson as the next Boy Wonder following several months of training. Despite showing much potential, the new Robin proved to be too unruly, often relying too much on violence along with a defiant streak that saw him clash with his mentor multiple times. This headstrong attitude proved to be his downfall, as Jason’s impulsiveness saw him get captured by the Joker, who proceeded to beat him to near death with a crowbar and finish the deed with a grisly explosion, all of which succeeded in traumatizing Batman for getting a child killed in his line of duty.

Unbeknownst to him or anyone else for that matter, Jason soon found himself on a new lease on life; Superboy Prime creating ripples that changed the very fabric of their universe resulted in Jason’s resurrection, at which point, he found himself undergoing training from Talia al Ghul to become one of the deadliest assassins in history. With her Lazarus Pit restoring him to his physical prime and subsequently reducing the last of his sanity to shreds, Jason returned to Gotham under the guise of the Red Hood, not just to take his revenge against Batman for failing him, but to wage his own war on crime and prove that he could not only take on his former mentor’s role as the city’s defender, but can do it far better than he ever could.

His path was one that had noble intentions tainted by his vendetta, as Red Hood gleefully took on anyone who dared stood in his way, whether they may be petty criminals, influential crime bosses, law enforcement officials, and other heroes; Jason’s own twisted ideology even saw him trade blows not just against Batman, but the many other allies he made through the Dark Knight’s long career. Even so, Red Hood has proven himself time and time again to be an unexpected ally in the Bat Family’s own mission to protect Gotham’s citizens. Despite opposing philosophies in how to fight crime, they see that his willingness to cross lines they never would make him capable of fighting the battles only his unwavering ruthlessness can properly answer.

Equipment

Winter Soldier

Bionic Arm

No not that one sadly

The explosion had claimed his entire left arm, so the Soviet Union gave him a mechanical arm, but this was not your typical prosthetic arm. Over the years the arm has had several updates and improvements, resulting in the arm having various functions, including:

• Superhuman Strength – The bionic arm gives Bucky greatly enhanced strength, capable of punching through metal with ease.
• Stabilization Sensors – Bucky can detect the equilibrium of objects through his bionic arm and therefore launch them with pinpoint precision, even causing them to bounce correctly back to him.
• Automatic Reload – The arm can also reload weapons automatically with an ammunition mechanism in it.
• Palm Sensors – The weapons that Barnes use have palm print sensors, which means if someone else attempts to use the scanned weapons, the weapons will self-destruct.
• Sensory Array – The arm has different sensors that allow him to see his surroundings and identify targets. The arm can project holograms to make them look and feel like a normal human arm, as well as pass through security like metal detectors without activating them. It can also protect other metal objects from detection.
• Electrical Discharge – Bucky can discharge bolts of electrical energy from his arm’s palm.
• Electromagnetic Pulse – Bucky can discharge an EMP, rendering electronic devices useless.
• Extended Reach – Apparently, Bucky can control his bionic arm even when it’s removed from his body, capable of punching multiple people on his own.
• Flamethrower – He can emit a stream of flame from his palm.
• Retractable Blade – The arm has a retractable blade perfectly suited for close combat

Knives

In close range combat, Bucky tends to favor knives at close range. In terms of knives he has used:

• Gerber Mark II Combat Knife: This knife is Bucky’s favorite and the one he most commonly used in Captain America: The Winter Soldier. He is extremely skilled at using it, shown when he matched Captain America in combat.
• Gerber Yari ll Tanto: These knives take inspiration from the classic Japanese knife, the tanto.
• Benchmade SOCP Dagger: He carried it in a holster next to his Gerber Mark ll, though he was never seen using it.
• Bayonet Knife: This knife is often used with a rifle. He used it to kill an Outrider who tackled him to the ground.

Firearms

Bucky’s wielded a variety of deadly firearms over the years. Also should be noted that while the comics don’t really go into detail on what type of guns that WS has used, the MCU does. 

• Modified Luger Pistol: During his time as Captain America, Bucky used a modified Luger Pistol with shots capable of harming herald level beings such as the Red Hulk and Ares. It is also capable of hurting beings made out of photon energy.
• SIG-Sauer P220ST: The Winter Soldier’s weapon of choice, a semi-automatic pistol that was designed in 1975.
• Beretta 92FS Inox: These are semi-automatic pistols designed and manufactured by Beretta of Italy.
• SIG-Sauer P226R/Glock 19: Winter Soldier dual wielded these in Captain America: Winter Soldier.
• COP .357 Derringer: This gun is designed for concealment due to it’s small size. It lacks the firepower of some pistols but still can be an effective weapon
• Intratec TEC-38: This small gun is carried in Winter Soldier’s holster. 
• Vz.61 Skorpion: A submachine gun carried on the back of his vest. Due to being a submachine gun, Bucky can fire this gun rapidly. 
• Colt M4A1 with a M203 Grenade Launcher: A fully automatic carbine and the standard weapon used by S.H.I.E.L.D. Strike Team members. The Cold M4A1 comes with a M203 Grenade Launcher attachment which allows him to fire explosive grenades at his opponent. 
• Barrett M82A1M: This is Winter Soldier’s main sniper rifle. With this rifle, Bucky can very easily take a life in the blink of an eye. 
• Kazurr Sniper Rifle: This sniper rifle was used by Bucky when he was the Man on the Wall. It’s an extremely long range sniper rifle, capable of sniping a target from a moon away. It also has Vibranium rounds. 
• M249 SAW Paratrooper: This machine gun is a combination of high-speed firing rate, accuracy, and convenient portability, making it an extremely effective weapon for soldiers. It is commonly used in the United States Armed Forces.
• Missile Launcher: This missile launcher has impressive power, being able to take out the Crimson Dynamo, who can tangle with Iron Man.

Grenades

• FN Mk 13: A grenade launcher customized to fire disc grenades. These disc grenades can stick to surfaces and then explode. 
• Milkor MGL: A six-shot revolver-type grenade launcher. 
• M67 Grenade: These portable grenades can be thrown at enemies.
• Ball Grenade: The Winter Soldier rolled a heavily-customized variant of the “Ручная Граната Наступательная (Ruchnaya Granata Nastupatel’naya),” a Soviet hand grenade. He mostly uses these in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. 
• Smoke Grenades: Bucky can throw smoke grenades in order to blind his opponents. 
• Explosive Charges: Bucky has explosive charges that can be set onto any object/surface. It was powerful enough to destroy Moon Knight’s space ship (yes really).

Other Equipment 

• Grappling Hook – Bucky has a grappling hook that allows him to scale buildings as well as swing down from huge cliffs. 
• Domino Mask – Bucky’s mask provides protection from bullets, and has advanced technology inside it capable of scanning the layout of entire buildings to find people inside.
• Wall-Scaling Gear – Bucky has gear which allows him to easily scale walls/buildings to reach up to high areas. 
• Listening Gear –  Bucky can listen into other people’s conversations even if they are not in the same room as him.
• Holograms – Bucky has equipment that can create holograms of himself or other people as shown when he used a hologram of Wolverine to fool his opponents.

Red Hood

Helmet

Based on the old criminal identity used by the Joker before he became the Joker, Jason donned a red helmet based on the old identity. However, it uses more of a biker aesthetic, which he uses for protection and to hide his identity. Underneath the helmet, Jason also wears a domino mask that contains a radio transmitter and receiver as well as night vision.

In addition, Jason also added some gadgets to the helmet. For underwater travel, the helmet contains a breathalyzer that allows him to breathe safely. Just like the domino mask, Jason’s helmet also possesses night vision to see in the dark. And if necessary, the helmet can also serve as an explosive for Jason to use against his enemies.

Batarangs

One of the most well-known weapons owned by the Dark Knight are the small shuriken that are his trusty Batarangs, but Bruce isn’t the only one who uses them. Jason, like many members in the Bat Family, equips some batarangs of his own and uses them to disarm his opponents or as thrown projectiles.

Firearms

But one thing that sets Jason apart from nearly everyone in the Bat Family is his love of using firearms to fight crime.

• IWI Jericho 941s – Jason owns a pair of double-action/single-action semi-automatic pistols customized to be fitted with extra picatinny rails and mini red-dot sights.
• M1911 Pistols – Jason also owns a pair of modified .45 M1911 pistols that he dual wields.
• Machine Guns – Jason also owns a variety of machine guns in his arsenal that he uses against enemies.
• Shotguns – Jason comes in packing extra firepower with shotguns, if the situation ever calls for it.
• Rocket Launchers – If he needs to bring out the big guns (no pun intended), Jason will opt to use a rocket launcher to blast his foes into smithereens.

Arm Blades

Made by the Japanese military, these specialised arm blades are effective at close range combat as shown during Jason’s fight against Cassandra Cain aka Orphan. 

Taser

Jason Todd hides a taser underneath his sleeve which he can use to quickly electrify a combatant or cause massive damage depending on who the opponent is (as shown with the above image).

Bat Taser

At some point in his career as the Red Hood, Jason modified his body suit to have a built-in taser that he uses to get people off of him when necessary. The taser is activated through the red bat symbol on his chest, and it’s powerful enough to stun an Amazon.

Swords

Jason has also been trained in swordsmanship by the League of Assassins after his resurrection. He’s consistently shown to be a deadly fighter when wielding a blade in his hands.

Electric Gliding Wings

While Jason doesn’t have a traditional cape which he can use to glide, he does have electric powered gliding wings which he can use to glide in the air. They are also electrically powered so they can shock anyone that comes into contact with them.

Grenades/Explosives

If he needs to blow something up, Jason is packed with grenades and other kinds of explosives.

All-Blades

A pair of mystical blades made out of copper designed to kill magic-based threats, such as the Untitled or Amazons. The blades are powered by the soul of the wielder and can be powered by spilling the wielder’s own blood. Normally, the swords can only be summoned in the presence of absolute evil. However, after Jason had truly mastered the All-Caste’s teachings, he gained access to the real All-Blades and is capable of summoning them to his hands by will.

Supposedly, the All-Blades can’t harm anything that isn’t magical. However, this is shown to be inconsistent as Jason was able to use the swords to harm robots and non-magical aliens. Therefore, it’s possible that the All-Blades aren’t restricted to just magical beings and are just more effective against them.

Other Equipment

• Grappling Gun – A member of the Bat Family wouldn’t be complete without the good ol fashioned grappling gun. It does exactly what you think.
• Lasers –  A wrist-mounted laser that Jason utilizes to break into buildings and vaults.
• Bolas – A notable weapon used by the Bat Family. A bola is a thrown projectile used to tie up running targets.
• Knives – Jason carries an assortment of knives to use in battle.
• Crowbar – Ironically, Jason uses the same type of weapon that was used to kill him by the Joker. He prefers to use it to give his victims a beating…yes, he has some problems.
• Kris Dagger – While Jason used plenty of blades, the Kris Dagger is his most preferred weapon of choice for hand-to-hand combat.

Abilities

Winter Soldier

Infinity Formula

This might seem like another attempt to recreate the Super Soldier Serum, but the Infinity Formula is in fact an alchemical serum produced by the Brotherhood of the Shield in 1652, made from the Elixir of Life and it was developed by Sir Isaac Newton. Yes…I know.

Although the serum retains the life-prolonging properties of its original elixir, it doesn’t make the person immortal, it just keeps people from aging. It also has various other effects on his body: 

• Enhanced Physicality: Due to the Infinity Formula, Barnes’ body was enhanced to the peak of human potential of strength, agility, stamina, speed and durability. He is able to bench lift up to 800 lbs. (363 kg) as well as run at speeds of 32-36 mph (both of these were stated in the Marvel Official Handbook). He can also tank attacks from the likes of Spider-Man who is definitely 100% superhuman in his strength,speed and durability. 
• Enhanced Reflexes/Agility: The Infinity Formula also has enhanced his agility and reflexes to peak human levels. He is able to leap from one building to another with ease and with the air of a car leaps up a couple stories. He can also very easily dodge bullets point blank or at a distance. 
• Regenerative Healing: Due to the Infinity Formula, Bucky can heal much faster than the normal person being able to repair broken bones and gunshot wounds within a couple of days though his regeneration still has limits as shown with the one-sided stomp against Worthy Sin where he had most of his chest destroyed and needed the Infinity Formula from Nick Fury in order to stay alive. 

Resistance to Mind Control

After the untimely apparent death of Captain America, Barnes was offered to take up the mantle of his best friend. At this point, Bucky had still been susceptible, in theory, to similar brainwashing that had controlled him in the past. Thanks to some intervention from Tony Stark, however, this is no longer the case. 

Assassin Training

Bucky is one of the deadliest assassins in the Marvel Universe – on par with the likes of Elektra and Bullseye. He is a master of stealth and tracking to the point that he can even sneak up on Wolverine through using oil to block his senses as well as apply oil to the environment. He is also an expert in espionage training due to thanks largely to World War Two hand-to-hand combat luminaries William Essart Fairbairn, Colonel Rex Applegate and Steve Rogers to the point that he can easily sneak into a building without being caught and can eliminate a target within a few seconds without getting caught. With a special Kataran Rifle, he can even snipe a target from several moons away despite the frankly absurd skill and timing it would take. 

Fighting Style

In terms of combat, Bucky very much integrated his American military training and his KGB Russian Training into his own fighting style. While fighting an opponent, he will often find a method of taking them down as quickly as possible through the use of throws and grapples which is very easy to achieve due to his enhanced speed and strength. In terms of what martial arts Bucky uses:  

• Defendu – Defendu is a modern martial art style that was developed before World War 2. Developed by William E. Fairbairn and Eric A. Sykes in the United Kingdom, this Scottish martial art was later taught to Colonel Rex Applegate (who was in the U.S Army). Both Willaim E. Fairbairn and Colonel Rex Applegate would later teach Defendu to Bucky (they also trained Captain America). In terms of Defendu, it focuses on ending fights as quickly as possible through attacking vital areas. Defendu is also one of the most offense based martial arts, always striking and always trying to take down opponents as quickly as possible, as such Denfendu uses no block or parry based maneuvers
• Judo –  Judo was created by Jigoro Kano in 1982. Its most prominent feature is its competitive element, where the objective is to either throw or takedown an opponent to the ground. The user then forces the opponent to submit with a joint lock or a choke. Both the Russian and American militaries would incorporate parts of Judo into their own fighting styles. 
• Sambo –  Developed by Vasili Oshchepkov and Viktor Spiridonov, Sambo was designed to mix in traditional Russian martial arts and foreign martial arts like Judo and Jujitsu. Sambo is specifically designed to stop an armed or unarmed foe quickly. In combat, most Russian soldiers would use Sambo as a means of taking a weapon away from an opponent and then taking them to the ground with a Judo-like throw before finishing them off. Bucky was also taught these techniques during his time as the Winter Soldier. 
• Systema – Systema was specifically developed by the Russian military. Systema is rooted in military based tactics and techniques with knife fighting and firearms training being one of the core areas of Systema. Systema focuses on disabling the opponent, waiting for an opening and then taking it in order to finish an opponent off in a few fluid movies – in that regard, Systema takes inspiration from traditional Sambo and Judo.  
• Armeyskiy Rukopashniy Boy (ARB): ARB was developed by the Russian Military in the 1970s and focuses on striking and grappling techniques with an emphasis on stand-up fighting and use of throws to take an opponent down quickly. Those who are an expert at ARB will use their opponent’s weight against them and throw them to the ground for a quick knockout (like Judo and traditional wrestling).
• Filipino Martial Arts – Knife Fighting: Bucky is very clearly trained in knife fighting/knife based martial arts. While it is not explicitly stated what martial art he is using when using his knife – it is like he is using Filipino Martial Arts which has a section based around weapons with knives being a key part along with Escrima Sticks It is likely Bucky received this martial art training in WW2 or at least an extremely altered version of it as. Filipino Martial Arts has been used by the US American Military as well as the Russian Spetsnaz.

Red Hood

Acrobatics

Acrobatics is the performance of extraordinary human feats involving movements that are a combination of balance, agility, and motor coordination. This combination often utilizes apparatus such as tightropes, trapezes, unicycles, balls, barrels, and/or poles. The performance of acrobatics requires quick reactions, and accurate timing. It can improve strength and overall body conditioning when done safely. Jason has incorporated acrobatics into his fighting style and combat. He can jump high, keep up with acrobatic opponents running across cities, and use his agility to survive falls that would kill ordinary humans.

Fighting Styles

While his training from Batman was a fundamental part of Jason’s history, due to his training under both Talia al Ghul and the All-Caste, Jason has shown to focus more on brutality, strength, and speed when it comes to fighting, some of the fighting styles that he knows include;

• Aikido – A Japanese martial art, Aikido specializes in beating your opponent while keeping them safe from injury. While Red Hood is far less merciful than his former boss, he has likely been trained in this way specifically because of Batman’s non-lethal method of justice. It’s also a good martial art for redirecting an opponent’s movements, turning their own attacks against them.
• Capoeira – Created by African slaves in Brazil, Capoeira is a far more fluid martial art than others, focusing on constant motion while, typically, keeping your hands on the ground rather than fixed stances with your feet being planted.
• Karate – Quite possibly the most famous martial art in the world, so famous that you probably learned it as a kid, Karate focuses on quick, precise strikes with open hands, requiring no weapons while attacking in the same vein as if you were using them.
• Ninjutsu  – It’s kind of impossible to be trained by the stealthiest person in the DC Universe without learning Ninjutsu, the art of stealthful combat. Focusing on more guerilla style warfare and espionage, it’s a school of combat that involves several different fighting styles.
• Savate – A form of french kickboxing, Savate combines old English style boxing techniques with graceful movements to make your feet, and ONLY your feet, as effective as any potential weapon.
• Krav Maga – An Israeli martial art, Krav Maga is a bit of a fusion of different fighting styles like wrestling, Karate, Judo, but with a focus on realistic scenarios in which it might be required, and learning to be aggressive in a fight.
• Kickboxing – Kickboxing is a very varied martial art, originally derived when combining original boxing techniques with that of Karate techniques. There are various styles of kickboxing, such as the previously mentioned Savate, Japanese kickboxing, and American kickboxing.
• Silat – Derived from the Indonesian archipelago, there are many different styles and schools of combat for Silat, but the martial art typically focuses on precise strikes, weapon skills with blades no bigger than a broadsword, manipulation of an opponent’s joints in combat, or a mix of these three skills.
• Taekwondo – Coming from the Korean peninsula, Taekwondo focuses on various styles of kicks to hit above the waist, including spinning kicks, jumping kicks, and fast movements with the user’s legs.

Resistance to Mind Control & Toxins

After Jason was resurrected by the Lazarus Pit, Talia al Ghul brought him to be trained by the immortal woman Ducra. Ducra was the leader of the All-Caste and taught Jason guidance on being one of the world’s most skilled assassins. Part of that training included teaching Jason how to be in control of his mind. After completing this training, Jason is able to have a good resistance to mind control and break himself free from illusions. In addition, Jason has also developed a resistance to toxins thanks to Ducra’s training. This is shown in a fight with the Joker where the supervillain tried to poison Jason with a paralytic toxin, but it failed to affect him.

Feats

Winter Soldier

Overall

• Is a World War II veteran, and boasted extensive battlefield experience prior to becoming the Winter Soldier
• Trained under Captain America, the USAF, SAS and KGB
• Assisted in breaking Wolverine out of the Weapon X facility
• Became Captain America for a spell following the supposed death of Steve Rogers
• Defeated Norman Osborne’s Thunderbolts, including the Greek god of war, Ares
• Became the modern day leader of the Thunderbolts
• Succeeded Nick Fury Sr. as the Man on the Wall, the secret first line of defense against extraterrestrial threats
• Killed the Red Skull
• Matched Miles Morales aka Spider-Man
• Eliminated a target from a moon away
• Prevented a HYDRA plan to install a dummy president during a US election

Strength

• Broke a solid wall with a single blow
• Fought on par with Daredevil, Wolverine, and Hawkeye at the same time
• Harmed Iron Man
• Punches through a robot and rips out it’s wiring
• Stalemates the Punisher (Punisher goes on to state he would lose against Bucky)
• With his mechanical arm he can punch through metal
• Casually lifts a man and tosses him with one hand
• Rips through the bottom half of a car
• Threw Miles Morales into a chimney, destroying the upper half of it 
• Crushes a Cosmic Cube
• Defeated a Frost Giant by wrapping wire around his neck and making him fall off a cliff
• Shatters Shockwave’s helmet with a single punch

Speed

• Dodges automatic gunfire
• Slices Hawkeye’s arrow mid flight
• Blocks a shot from a turret
• Dodges Kate Bishop’s arrow 
• Intercepts an RPG
• Evades gunfire from a military chopper
• Got the drop on Wolverine – considering that Wolverine is comparable to the likes of Captain America, this is impressive. 
• Consistently on par with Captain America, who blocked lightning from Electro (Mach 379-560) and blocked a needle at the speed of light 
  • Captain America has also reacted to Cyclops’ lasers, which move at light speed
• Comparable to Hawkeye and Black Panther, who dodged a glider thrown by Hulk in a microsecond
• Comparable to Daredevil, who can react in a nanosecond (3.33 c) 
• Killed 12 targets within seconds from a Sniper Rifle
• Evades attacks from Gamora
• Kills a Hydra Agent before he can fire using Kate’s Arrow
• Using Captain America’s Shield, intercepts a sniper shot after it has already been fired. 
• Dodges an attack from an Accuser. Accusers are extremely fast as shown with Ronan the Accuser being able to tag Quicksilver
• Reacts to and blocks Living Laser’s Lasers 
• Dodges Green Flames from an Accuser 
• Dodges a close range shot from an Accuser
• Dodging lasers from Kree Guns
• Dodges multiple blasts from the Accusers while leaping across buildings

Durability

• Comparable to Wolverine, who survived getting punched from New York to Georgia (13.33 – 333.48 tons of TNT)
• Scales to Captain America, who could withstand a blast that is the equivalent of a nuke (104 Tons – 12 Kilotons of TNT) 
• Takes and blocks hits from Batroc the Leaper
• Blasted by a Doombot
• Tanks a grenade shot from Sin (using his shield to protect himself)
• Shot several times in the chest by Sin
• Gets electrocuted 
• Gets his face punched by Hyperion
• Tanked a blast from a Kree Weapon
• Tanked electricity form Shield Agents but was knocked out 
• Tanked bio-electricity from Miles Morales
• Tanked a punch from Miles Morales
• Gets beaten up by a human that has the power to turn into a large anthropomorphic bear aka Ursa Major
• Tanks a molotov cocktail point-blank
• Is thrown into this Stone Pillar by someone who had Captain America’s strength
• Using Captain America’s Shield, blocks an RPG and crash lands onto a car
• Takes an absolute beating from Sin Worthy who is wielding the Hammer of Skadi (The Hammer of Skadi is comparable to the Hammer of Mjolnir)

Red Hood

Overall

• Became both the second Robin (following Dick Grayson’s retirement of the role) and the second Red Hood (following, ironically enough, the Joker)
• Has received extensive training in combat and detective skills from Batman
• Chosen by Talia al Ghul to lead the League of Assassins in case she and Ra’s al Ghul are out of the picture
• Defeated Black Mask
• Stalemates Mr. Freeze
• Stalemates Ravager
• Defeated Cassandra Cain
• Received training in hacking from Tim Drake
• Even as early as his first time becoming Robin, Jason was capable of defeating The Joker
• Considers himself to be one of the best assassins in the world

Strength

• Broke a large talon’s bones
• Cut the arm of an alien lizard
• One hand tosses some terrorist out an airplane
• He put Lobo on his knees on the ground (full PIS, it’s likely Jason disorientated him by knocking him on the head)
• Can hold up the roof of a building
• Capable of flipping Bane, who weighs over three hundred pounds.
• Beats up Batman
• Held down the roof of a broken building
• Cuts off the head of a dinosaur
• Capable of flipping Suzie Sue, who weighs around six hundred pounds
• Punches through the hull of an underwater submarine
• Sent Deathstroke flying with a kick
• Took on some Venom users
• He is strong enough to hold down the roof of a broken building

Speed

• Dodged a point-blank gunshot
• Dodges sniper fire
• Dodges alien bullets 
• Kept up with Talons, who have enhanced speed
• Blitzed the GCPD (The Gotham Police) while just wearing a towel
• Is stated to be faster than Tim Drake, Red Robin
• Dodged attacks from Lady Shiva, one of the greatest martial artists in the world
• Dodged Batgirl’s batarangs
• Dodges hits from a nerfed Bizzaro
• Dodges Artemis
• Dodges an axe thrown by Artemis
• Hits Green Arrow before he can react
• Outruns a man on a vehicle
• Dodges attacks from James Gordon’s Bat Mech-Suit
• Dodges gunfire from Deathstroke
• Defeated a group of alien constructs in 17 seconds
• He has been shown to be faster than Tim Drake, who is fast enough to dodge a spray of bullets in a confined sewer
• Scales to Batman, who’s fast enough to dodge heat vision with reflective properties

Durability

• His helmet is incredibly durable
• All his armor is bullet proof
• It can withstand the pressure of deep water
• Gets knocked back by Frankenstein
• Tanks an explosive Batarang
• Survives getting hit by a bazooka
• Gets kicked in the stomach by Artemis
• Survives multiple nukes going off underwater (though he was not directly in the explosion)
• Is set on fire by Roy Harper and is fine
• Tanked a kick from Cheshire
• Resistant to paralytic toxins

Weaknesses

Winter Soldier

While Barnes may be an incredibly deadly assassin and fierce fighter, the Winter Soldier is not infallible. For starters, Bucky’s past has haunted him for much of his post-brainwashed life. While this doesn’t necessarily detract from his skill or combat prowess, it has left him unsure of his actions. 

Perhaps more notably, Bucky is heavily reliant on his metal arm. While it can operate independently of Bucky, he is obviously severely weakened if it is otherwise neutralized. Since most of Bucky’s arsenal is finite in supply, Barnes relies on his arm to provide the edge he needs in close-quarters combat. And, of course, Barnes is still human at the end of the day. A very, very, very strong human, but human all the same.

Red Hood

Jason may be one of the most talented members of the Bat-Family, but it’s important to remember that he is still a normal human, and has the same weaknesses as any other human does. In fact, this is what resulted in his own death at the hands of the Joker. Beyond that, however, Jason’s own aggression and anger has led to him making mistakes at times that have been exploited by opponents he should typically beat.

While Jason is a skilled fighter, his reliance on guns is probably his biggest weakness. He has a finite amount of ammo on him at one time, so once he runs out, he has to rely on his own combat skills, which also limits his effective range. Granted, he’s shown bullet timing feats before, but this still means a stray bullet or one he can’t see coming could require him to take another dip into the Lazarus Pit.

Summary

Winter Soldier

“There are things from the Winter Soldier days that I’m just remembering. Weapons left in the field… Dangers I can still prevent. I think maybe that’s the path… A way to the redemption I’ve been looking for.”

Advantages:

• More than likely holds the advantage in strength, speed and durability
• Conventionally more useful arsenal
• Has more experience via being several decades older and more active in combat than Jason
• Bucky’s arm likely won’t be affected by the EMP, while most of Jason’s tech will be
• Can likely detect Jason easily should he try to use stealth
• Bullets are more potent, consistently hurting foes far above his level

Disadvantages:

• Lacks the intellect many of the Bat-family have in spades
• Likely not as skilled outside raw hand-to-hand combat; stealth, for example
• Smaller arsenal of gadgets 

Red Hood

“So here I am. A “hero”? A “villain”? I’m the guy who can do the things that Batman can’t… become someone that Batman won’t. Am I the man Bruce wanted me to become? Not even close. But someday soon he’ll realize… I’m exactly who he needs.”

Advantages:

• Training from Batman likely makes up for lack of comparative experience
• More analytical and intelligent
• Much wider arsenal
• More protective armor

Disadvantages:

• At a disadvantage in strength, speed and durability
• Arsenal is less destructive and more specific in usage compared to Bucky’s
• EMP won’t work on Bucky’s arm
• All-Blades’ usability is questionable, though they likely won’t be a major factor even if usable
• Much less experienced
• Stealth is useless
• Bullets aren’t as potent as Bucky’s
• His venom is non-standard and it’s questionable how useful it would even be
• Crowbars
• Quite literally died due to fan demand

Verdicts

AkhilPDX

YES. FINALLY. ONE OF MY MOST REQUESTED FIGHTS. 

Ahem. Anyways, who wins? Well, I think this fight is pretty clear cut. At least compared to stuff like Flash VS Archie Sonic, Beerus VS Galaxia, or She-Ra VS Wonder Woman so it’s not going to be a really long verdict.

Stats: Starting off, we have stats and straight away, Bucky takes the lead.

Speed: Jason scales to Batman and Black Canary in speed. He might be slightly slower but he should definitely be in their tier, meaning he would get anywhere from MHS+ to Relativistic to even lightspeed in combat. Bucky on the other hand… well, he would scale around Daredevil and Captain America, with the latter being slightly faster than the former, and for speed… Daredevil can process events down to the nanosecond which was calced to be 3c or 3 times faster than light. Due to this, Bucky can be anywhere from 1.5 to 290x times faster depending on what you want to believe (290x faster is a lowball for Jason and the highest Bucky can get without wank) but a safe bet would be around 3 – 6x faster which is still a pretty good speed advantage.

Strength: Strength is definitely a bigger gap than speed and Bucky has this advantage as well. It’s not just that metal arm (but it definitely helps). Scaling of someone like Wolverine (who didn’t need to regenerate from this), Bucky would be around town level via this 21.7 kiloton explosion. Yes, this is a durability feat, but Bucky is capable of harming Wolverine and scales to characters capable of accomplishing that such as Captain America. Jason would be on par with Batman who could survive this (927.88 tons of TNT / nearly 1 kiloton) but Bruce wasn’t in the center of the explosion so even then, he would downscale. I do believe there are things that get DC street-tier character sto town level, but even then, I’m not sure if Jason would truly scale to Batman or Deathstroke if they were going all out. After all, the last time Jason fought a pissed off Batman, it didn’t end too well. I’d say he should at least be large building level and would make it to CB – MCB level. Bucky on the other hand would be CB – Town level so it is a pretty significant advantage.

Durability: Scales to strength, so yes, Bucky is once again, superior.

Hax: These two don’t have some crazy hax like reality warping but to break it down into extremely easy and simple terms:

• Bucky’s EMP will screw Jason’s tech over.
• That metal arm is pretty versatile.
• Bucky is arguably a better assassin (better aim and would have more lethal weaponry).
• All-Blades won’t work on Bucky (they’re weirdly inconsistent).
• Jason’s venom is non-standard.
• Jason could use stealth but it might be moot due to Bucky’s scanners).
• Red Hood has the Bat-Family training.
• Red Hood has that Bat-Family tech (while not as lethal, it is slightly more versatile).

What does this mean? Well… Bucky takes the stat trinity meaning that Jason’s best hope is by going for the weak spots and by the looks of it, he might not even be strong enough to deal fatalistic blows. If the All-Blades do end up working, then he could win, but the intention is that they only work on magical characters. They both have extremely powerful bullets, but you could make a compelling argument that Bucky is the better shot and the better assassin overall. Of course, Jason would have an advantage in CQC HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THE STAT GAP. Red Hood is a better fighter and a more analytical thinker, so he could try to win with stealth, but again… Bucky has those sensors and once he lets out an EMP using his arm, Jason’s tech would fritz out. He could try to attack from a range, but that’s an area where I’d say Bucky is slightly better in which means at the end of the day, I’ll have to go with Winter Soldier due to his superior stats, experience advantage, superior skill at range, and specifically lethal arsenal which would counter everything that Jason can throw at him. Looks like Red Hood just couldn’t hood out alive out of this winter.

EpicLinkSam

Can I just say that I expected Wally vs Archie Sonic’s backlash to be a lot worse? Anyways, let’s get into this fight.

Complain about more Marvel vs DC if you want, but this is one of the coolest matches we could have gotten. I love both of these characters, so this kinda does hurt, but I can’t wait to see this.

Now, let’s look through this matchup.

Right off the bat (hah), Winter Soldier is far stronger than Red Hood in the stat trinity. Red Hood has the advantage when it comes to intelligence, skill and arsenal. But ultimately, Winter Soldier’s stat advantage pretty much guarantees that intelligence won’t be the deciding factor. While Jason might have the skill advantage, the stat trinity makes sure that advantage won’t go so well. And Jason’s arsenal may be wider, but it’s not as powerful compared to Bucky’s.

The EMPs won’t work on Bucky’s arm, and Jason’s stealth gets countered by Bucky’s scanner. Pretty much anything Red Hood has, Winter Soldier will have an answer to it.

TL;DR: Red Hood is skilled, and has a ton of weapons, but he’s nowhere near Winter Soldier’s level of strength and speed, and his weapons are generally better too. In other words, it looks like Winter Soldier’s Redy to rip that Hood off. (Fucking hell this one was terrible.)

Time

First off, I want to take a moment to just state how overwhelmingly excited I am for this one. As a comic nut and long time fan of the show, this is a fight I’ve wanted to see for over half a decade now, and it feels strange knowing these two are finally going to throw down so soon. It’s going to be very fun seeing which one of these revived gun-toting sidekicks takes the gold.

Looking from a skill and experience perspective, these two each hold advantages over the other. Obviously, Bucky takes experience in spades. Not only did he debut much earlier in the comics, alongside Captain America in his original 40s run, but canonically being a World War II veteran makes him far older than Jason, and unlike Steve he wasn’t taking a frosty power nap all those decades. As for skill, Bucky is a pretty standard Marvel street tier. He has mastery of various martial arts and can contend with many skilled fighters of that league, such as Black Widow, Daredevil, and the Cap himself.

Likewise, his military training also makes him a skilled spy and marksman, having pulled off infiltrations and assassinations well enough to make them seem like accidents or snipe a target from several moons away. However, Jason is a former Robin, meaning he has trained with the notoriously skilled and master-of-all-trades Batman. As such, stealth, tactics, and absurd amounts of combat skill come naturally to Red Hood. In hand-to-hand he has even managed to gain the upper hand against the Caped Crusader and best Ra’s al Ghul in sword combat. With his detective training, he can easily deduce the weaknesses of his opponents almost instantly.

In terms of martial training, both are impressive fighters with multiple fighting styles under his belt, but Jason’s Robin training means he’s contending with fighters more skilled than who Bucky typically faces. The notable exception to this is marksmanship, as Bucky’s moon snipe far outclasses any precision shot Jason’s pulled off. Comparing stealth capabilities, Winter Soldier can get the drop on Wolverine despite his superb sense of smell, but Red Hood can sneak away from Supergirl without detection from her super-hearing. Overall, and perhaps unsurprisingly, Red Hood takes a pretty distinct advantage in terms of general training and skills while Winter Soldier is vastly more experienced and a better shot.

Taking a look at these two’s arsenals is an interesting task. Both obviously carry a plethora of firearms, explosives, grappling hooks, etc., but both have wielded some surprisingly powerful equipment throughout their careers, such as Jason’s roided up version of Bane’s Venom boosting his strength to break Supergirl’s grip or Bucky’s extremely long range space rifle complete with Vibranium bullets.

When comparing their weaponry, Red Hood has a clear advantage in terms of numbers and variety. As is fitting of a member of the Bat-Family, his arsenal is extremely jack-of-all-trades and varied. Particularly, Jason seems to carry more guns and a lot more blades than Bucky does, ranging from normal swords to arm-blades of Japanese and electric varieties. However, Winter Soldier’s equipment consistently seems to be deadlier and more effective in combat, especially through his iconic bionic arm. This metal limb is quite versatile, capable of emitting streams of flame and currents of electricity from the palm. Particularly dangerous to Jason is the arm’s ability to generate EMPs, as much of Red Hood’s own arsenal is dependent on electronics and has never shown a resistance to these pulses, allowing Bucky to render them weakened or useless.

However, Jason has wielded at least 2 things which could surpass the Winter Soldier’s normal caliber. One is the aforementioned Venom, which while potent, he only carried for a brief time and is hardly standard to his arsenal. The other is his strongest pair of swords: the All-Blades. These magic swords can be summoned at will and can match Herald tiers weapons and characters, such as Wonder Woman’s atom-splitting Sword of Hephaestus. The problem is these blades are consistently stated to only work on magical beings, which Bucky is not, yet we also see examples of the swords cutting apart robots, so this limitation may be exaggerated. At least to our knowledge, this is left ambiguous overall in the comics, but the lack of showings of Red Hood using the swords against normal criminals or other Street tiers make their exclusion the safer bet in this fight. Without his amped Venom or the All-Blades, Jason is hard pressed to overcome Bucky’s arm and own varied arsenal, giving the Winter Soldier a general edge in this field.

When it comes to the stat trinity, Bucky likely takes the edge. For speed, he can match the likes of Daredevil, who can react down to the nanosecond, and of course Captain America, who can react to Cyclops’ light speed optic lasers. These, among many more feats for Marvel’s Street tiers, place Bucky fairly safely in the low FTL range. Red Hood, on the other hand, can compare to fellow Street tier Black Canary, who dodges lasers and claims to perceive down to the nanosecond. This would place him at comparable speeds, but it is worth noting Marvel in general is far more consistent with its laser timing at this level, making it a more reliable placement for Bucky than Jason. In terms of strength/durability, Bucky can match Wolverine, who survived this massive 21 kiloton explosion, or scale to Cap tanking what’s essentially a nuke to the face, which comes out to about 12 kilotons. Jason is comparable to Deathstroke, who lifted this shipping container while surviving an 83 ton explosion, and the Dark Knight himself, who withstood this 927 ton detonation, although he was away from the epicenter of the blast and likely did not have to tank the entire near kiloton. Even if he did, however, this leaves Jason lagging a bit behind Bucky’s calibur, leaving him the weaker of the two.

Overall, this is a glorious fight and both will bring their A game into the ring, but only one can stand supreme at the end of the day. Although Jason likely edges out in terms of general training and brings a varied arsenal to the battlefield, Bucky sports superior stats and experience, while his arm’s EMP can cut Jason’s arsenal short. Honestly, I could see this going the other way if they give Red Hood his Venom or All-Blades, but with both being questionable to include, I will place my bets on the Winter Soldier. Both have faced death before, but on Sunday it will be Jason Todd who will be sent back to the grave.

Twice

While much of the depth of Wally VS Sonic’s debate admittedly went a little bit over my head, I am glad to see the point I focused on being a key factor. Luckily, this matchup is a lot more straightforward in that neither of them require an hour long dissertation to determine how big a zone is. I expect a lot of the more clear-cut points to be explained in great detail, so I’d instead like to address a couple points about Bucky scaling.

First off, a feat I see Bucky scaled to somewhat frequently is Sam Wilson surviving a city-level bomb, thus meaning Bucky and everyone in the ballpark of them scales. This feat takes place in issues 24 and 25 of the 2013 Rick Remender run of Captain America.

At a first glance, this seems about right. Sam flies the bomb up to save the city, it explodes, he survives. So Sam’s got that sweet city dura then, right?

Well, yes and no. 

Here Sam clearly explains that it was actually his Vibranium Wings that absorbed ‘most’ of the blast. Of course, he isn’t about to specifically narrow down an exact percentage for us, but his wings are clearly in tatters as he lies on the floor. 

Here’s where it gets a little weird. Sam states that the wings absorbed most of the explosion, but he wasn’t covering the bomb in the last panel we see him before it goes off. Admittedly, this is an assumption based on the scene, but it would only make sense to me if Sam covered the bomb before the detonation with the wings, even if we don’t see it. Otherwise, his word choice and reliance on the wings for his own protection don’t seem to make much sense. If we picture Sam ceasing his flight and then covering the bomb, then it makes sense why he’d say the wings absorbed most of the blast and had to rely on Vibranium in the first place to do something like that.

What this then means is that Sam didn’t take the full extent of a city-bursting bomb to the face. He absolutely took some, of course, even by his own admission. Much like how Captain America still has to take some damage from huge explosions despite having his shield blocking, Sam definitely survived some amount of this bomb. 

Narratively, Steve Rogers and Sharon Carter fully believe this blast killed Sam. Hell, Sam himself sure acts like the bomb will do him in if you read his dialogue before it explodes. Looking at this pragmatically, Sam only survived because of the Vibranium. Otherwise, he and others who would surely know his capabilities all assumed a city-level bomb would have killed him.

Getting a bit back on-topic here, how does this scale to Barnes? Well, unless he is given the Vibranium arm from the MCU, Bucky has no such Vibranium defense. Cap’s shield and Falcon’s wings provide both of them with a crucial dampener to destructive power that would otherwise kill them. Bucky may scale to Sam in raw, base stats, and I don’t doubt he could replicate Falcon’s feat here if he were in Sam’s position, but on his own, he has no comparable defense on Steve or Sam’s level. And as far as Sam goes, I still wouldn’t say Sam alone is city level in durability. He’s barely pushing it with his best equipment; the blast still seriously injured him, after all. And without knowing exactly how much of the explosion he directly took, I’d say it’s unquantifiable to get an exact level of dura for him from this feat without considering the Vibranium wings.

That all being said, it’s not like Bucky is hurting for durability. He has survived a thrashing by Skadi, whose weapon is in the same ballpark as Mjolnir, so that alone is gonna be pretty damning for Jason to surpass. Sure, Jason has swung well above his weight class before, but there’s a couple issues there. First, he has always needed some kind of amp. Whether it be his venom ala Bane, or the All-Blades granting him extra strength or the ability to target specific beings, Jason himself is very clearly not above your general DC street tier. And second, Bucky may not be all that higher in his own world, his high-ends are still notably more reliable than Jason. For example, Bucky’s standard blaster being capable of harming Frost Giants and Red Hulk. 

Actually, that’s probably the reason why I’m ultimately siding with Bucky here. Jason is absolutely the more intelligent, strategic, and better-trained of the two – as is typical with Bat-Family matchups – but Bucky’s equipment is notably more powerful than Todd. And unlike his pals Steve and Matt, Bucky actually carries stuff on him that can counter Jason’s equipment. Not to mention his metal arm is rather difficult to remove from the fight. Just separating it from Barnes won’t end the fight, as the arm can fight on its own and will almost certainly catch Jason off-guard. Not something you want to do when fighting someone with a blaster like Bucky.

So, yeah. Jason Todd-ally can’t keep up with The Winter Soldier’s strength, useful equipment, and killer instinct. Ah well, at least it’s hood that Marvel can get a win streak going… right?

Br3ndan5

Since it’s my first time on the blog, I’d like to start off by thanking Clockboxxer for letting me join in on this one. I’ll admit that I was expecting Red Hood to fight the Punisher, so it was kind of surprising to me when I saw that they were going with Winter Soldier as his opponent. It was even more surprising when I found out that they were going with live action for this match. Admittedly, I thought Nightwing vs Daredevil was kinda boring, so I wasn’t really expecting much going in. Needless to say, the preview, as short as it was, managed to raise my hopes up. As for the verdict, I’m going with the majority and saying that Bucky should be the one to take this.

In terms of strength and durability, Bucky’s ability to contend with the likes of Punisher, Daredevil, and Hawkeye would put him at City Block to Multi-City Block at minimum. And if we go by higher end feats of harming Iron Man, whose repulsor blasts can generate a 20 kiloton explosion, and being comparable to Captain America, who can strike with the force of 3 kilotons and has shown and stated that he can survive explosions of similar power; he would be Town Level. Meanwhile, Jason’s feats of harming Batman and Deathstroke would easily net him around Multi-City Block at minimum and Small Town at maximum.

Speed, meanwhile, is actually pretty close. Bucky’s shown that he can keep up with Daredevil, who can react in a nanosecond, and is comparable to Cap, who has shown multiple instances of reacting to attacks that move at the speed of light and kept up with characters of similar feats. Red Hood’s shown multiple feats of dodging or reacting to bullets, which would put him at a noticeable disadvantage normally, but if we scale him to fellow street tier characters like Black Canary, Batman, and Deathstroke, then he would have similar speeds to Bucky.

So they’re comparable in speed, while Bucky’s got an edge in strength and durability. But what about their other capabilities?

Well, in terms of experience, Bucky has Jason beat. Outside of having more history due to having existed since the 1940’s, Bucky’s time serving in World War 2, as well as his decades of experience as an assassin, ultimately give him the edge here. While Jason’s training under Batman does give him an edge in terms of fighting style, as he knows 9 martial arts compared to Bucky’s 6, it likely wouldn’t be able to help him that much; especially when you consider how easily Bucky can combine his weaponry with his martial arts to make CQC more difficult.

Speaking of weaponry, I feel that this is one of the closest aspects of the fight. In terms of versatility, Red Hood’s got tasers, batarangs, bladed weapons, and bolas; in addition to firearms and explosives like Winter Soldier has. When it comes to capabilities, however, I feel Winter Soldier has the better options. His various firearms all have their fair share of advantages over Hood’s (more options due to larger arsenal of guns, better range, better accuracy, superior rate of fire, larger number of rounds, etc), he carries a larger number of knives, his bionic arm gives him unpredictability with its various functions, and he can easily counter Red Hood’s stealth by using his mask’s scanning technology or listening gear.

Plus, the Infinity Formula gives him a healing factor that would let him withstand any attacks that Red Hood could manage to get off. As for the All-Blades,. even if we ignore the inconsistencies as to whether or not it can affect non-magic users, Bucky’s training in Sambo could potentially allow him to disarm Jason and use the blades for himself. Plus, while these blades are capable of matching the Sword of Hephaestus, there’s the slight problem that it’s unlikely Jason would be willing to go for them at the start. Most of the time, Jason tends to use normal weaponry like knives and firearms when fighting others, and considering Winter Soldier’s already-established comparable speed, better CQC training, superior strength, durability, and superior arsenal; it’s unlikely he’d last long enough to even consider using them.

Jason may have been trained by Batman, but he just couldn’t Soldier through this no-holds-Barnes-d beating.